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Post by stlkigers on Dec 20, 2008 0:07:40 GMT -5
The Billingers still have Kiger Hawk in Kansas....The gelded their most recent colt though (he was a Nieto de Sombre/Estrella foal). They didn't breed Hawk for any '09 foals either that I know of.... www.tornadoalleykigers.comAngela |
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Post by stlkigers on Dec 20, 2008 0:15:11 GMT -5
Also, there is Rochelle in Southwest Missouri with another Bolero.....She's at www.kingdomkigers.comI got to see him do a lovely in-hand demo at a recent horse Expo and part of it was totally at liberty where he weaved thru cones at the slight hand gestures of his trainer Ivan....Wonderful wonderful routine....He's barely under saddle but getting there.....Don't know about his foals on the ground or upcoming......... Angela |
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Post by DianneC on Dec 20, 2008 1:37:26 GMT -5
Bravo is owned by a trainer and friend of mine, Varisha Baker. You've seen her girls in pictures with my horses. I've been adopted as their aunt and benefit from it greatly with lots of hugs. I came to know Varisha when her mom purchased Cricket and I had Varisha train Chickadee. She fell in love and bought her. Her two daughters bought my Kiger foals, Rainy and Taos, and now they are buying Bravo. Usually trainers cost me money LOL. The older daughter, Stefani, sold her Arab endurance horse to buy Taos. She's quite the horsewoman already and only 12.
So I can always find Bravo for you. Sounds like you have a great thing going with your new stable, is that in San Diego? What is the name and breeding of the PRE stallion?
Speaking of San Diego, there is a gal there with Chisolm, a claybank stallion, at Kiger Brand. And another at Cowboy Lariat Designs with a dun Steens Kiger son, named King. I'm not sure if Lariat Designs still has their website up or not. I did find their contact info - Jodie @ Rancho Valle de La Jolla, Murrieta, CA (951)698-1185
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 20, 2008 8:58:14 GMT -5
Dianne, thanks for posting about Bravo...I have always liked him and wondered what he was up to.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 20, 2008 9:10:56 GMT -5
Out of these guys that are still stallions, which ones are available for AI (artificial insemination)?
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Post by kigerfan on Dec 20, 2008 9:31:04 GMT -5
Thanks Dianne, I'm glad you are still in contact with Bravo, I know how much you love him. The ranch is in Escondito California. This is her website: www.freedomsongranch.com/Julia seems to be a real nice gal, we get along very well so far, she's a horse crazy person too. I found it very interesting that the stallion Lavador is one of her reference stallions, he is one I was also considering when I had a good bit more money than I do now. |
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Post by stormyranch on Dec 20, 2008 11:11:07 GMT -5
Dianne, how old is Rio now? how tall? How much? Michelle, Let's see, how can I put this as nice as I can: Stay away from my next project. LOL This boy is great not only is he built nicely, but his mind is like another stallion I know. If I could afford him I would buy him in a heart beat. Kevin
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Post by fantasykiger on Dec 20, 2008 14:49:54 GMT -5
I do know Cowboy (Steens Vaquero) is available for AI.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 20, 2008 16:58:36 GMT -5
Kevin, no worries....!! I thought that maybe he would be good to syndicate - and then you could be more than welcome to train him!! You'd get to have all the fun and not output a big expense!!!
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Post by DianneC on Dec 20, 2008 19:23:29 GMT -5
How does a syndicate work? There's more than just the purchase price, there's feed, vets, farrier and travel to shows etc. The cheapest part of owning a horse can be the purchase price. What do people get in return for their investment? I know an Andalusian I read about was only available to mares of the syndicate, but no one is breeding much now.
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Post by sbutter on Dec 20, 2008 21:51:44 GMT -5
A syndicate can work in a number of ways. Typically (for TBs) a person will buy in on what ever percent they can afford and will own that percent of the horse (including expenses). They can also sell that percent to whoever they want. Typically someone helps divide up the parts and lets every one know what the horse is going to be slated for, so there aren't any surprises in expenses for showing. It would be good to have an agreement that states any terms or conditions that will help eliminate any misunderstandings. There could be an agreement that at the end of showing, someone can buy out some of the other partners. People can offer support for boarding fees, traveling expenses,ect. If it is a stallion, the partners could get free breedings depending on how much they own. They could also sell their season if they want.
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Post by kimk on Dec 21, 2008 1:03:45 GMT -5
Michelle,
Ki and Kody are both available for AI. Fuego isn't yet.
Kim
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Post by fantasykiger on Dec 21, 2008 14:05:07 GMT -5
OOPs I almost forgot...There is also Manny owned by Debi Pretty, she has been working very hard at his training and getting him in the show ring and she just sent me pictures of him playing in the snow and his son Indy dressed for the holidays.
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Post by DianneC on Dec 22, 2008 12:45:17 GMT -5
This is a different Manny than the old guy, Riddle Mtn Redman, right? I think Redman was gelded.
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Post by kimk on Dec 22, 2008 15:54:07 GMT -5
Yes Dianne, different Manny. The one you are thinking of belongs to the Fourniers and was gelded several years ago.
Debi's Manny is named Little Big Man. He was in the belly of Linda H's mare Kiger Loba Negra when she was adopted in 1999. Manny was at KigerFest..... he is stunning and Debi has done a wondeful job with him. Kevin and Jackie had both better watch out, as they will both have some serious competition with this pair!
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