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Post by fantasykiger on Jun 29, 2008 1:27:43 GMT -5
Everybody trips and falls on occassion, even graceful ballerinas. I am glad to hear neither of you was hurt. It is certianly scary when the stumble and actually fall, for both the horse and rider.
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Post by DianneC on Jun 29, 2008 10:24:30 GMT -5
You can watch to see if she tends to trip on one foot as you are working her from the ground. Usually this is just a one time thing of her not being balanced under you. But it can also mean that she has a sore/stiff leg where it doesn't have enough time to come through and so she trips. Or she could short stride at the canter and another foot doesn't have enough time to come through and she'll trip on another foot. If you lunge her at the extended trot on a large circle in both directions her back feet should pretty much hit where her front feet left. The inside hind can be more under but the reach forward should be equal on both sides. Since she fell be aware that she could have the need for some chiropractic treatment. I know this sounds out there but horses are pretty stoic and sometimes don't show pain except by resistance or misbehavior. Lark was out in a major way and I knew she didn't feel good but couldn't find a temp or anything. She did this little step trot, dink, dink, dink so I had her adjusted and she felt much better.
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Post by nrly on Jun 29, 2008 14:26:38 GMT -5
I do agree about the chiropractic adjustment, tomorrow I am going to call Dr. King and have her come out and see, again here will go the ridicule, some people are so ignorant, but I do not give a rats ass (excuse the language) what they are going to say.I need her to feel good so we can ride, will keep you all posted.
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Post by stlkigers on Jun 29, 2008 18:00:05 GMT -5
Nola:
Everyone's got an opinion...IMO it's just like the different trainers we all see; some stuff I value when I watch, other stuff I just ignore....There is an animal chiropractor here who adjusts some hunter jumpers who are otherwise unsound without adjustment so it must work to some extent...He did a great demo for my daughter's 4H Horse group....And myself on the other hand, I had severe TMJ as a teen....Rather than get my jaw broke and rewired (as the ortho wanted to do) my mom took me to the chiropractor...I had to go 2x/week for almost a year, and then weekly for a year, but now my jaw NEVER locks shut like it use to...It clicks a bit but I cannot complain and it's been over 15 years!
Just think, maybe in all this you are teaching THEM something! You do what your gut instinct tells you to do!
Angela
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Post by angelsdream on Jun 30, 2008 9:51:48 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your fall nola, but sounds like it wasnt too bad - at least there were no broken bones this time. That's always good! I hope the chiropractor will help, let us know what happens.
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Post by fantasykiger on Jun 30, 2008 15:07:22 GMT -5
I think equine chiropractors can be do wonders for some horses. I aways give mine a call when I have a horse that is just off for some reason. Some adjusting can be just the ticket.
I know I am crazy but I would have to be in extreme pain and dead drunk before I would let anyone manipulate my bones. I know it does not make no sense but that is just me.
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Post by nrly on Jun 30, 2008 18:29:31 GMT -5
lol Tiffany, I know what your saying, these guys are first and foremost.....
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Post by fantasykiger on Jun 30, 2008 19:06:04 GMT -5
Your right nola...I do worry more about my horses comfort and well being then I do my own. I know I will be alright and can tolerate my day to day aches and pains. I just want to be sure they are happy horses and at their best.
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Post by nrly on Jun 30, 2008 23:57:58 GMT -5
yes I agree, went out tonight and she was a bit flighty, but I think it was a way to stop me from riding. Well hubby rode her first, and last, he did not get off her, she was acting flighty, and not keeping a straight line, but by the end of the evening she was so much better, and she was wet, everyone says a few more wet blankets, and she sill be perfect. We are taking her slowly along, get the jitters out of her, so i am comfortable on her. I know for a fact she would never hurt me, i am worried i would hurt her if I am nervous, which i was tonight. So i stayed off, but she did get rode, and I will get back on her soon, I do not understand why I am nervous I know she fell and not her fault, I really feel I did something. In the end i doubt myself, and get nervous. And that pass's on to her, and we both are newbies, does any of this make sense, or am i babbling... oh yes tonight when Jim was riding her she was trotting and she really looked like a paso fino, lifting those front legs, I thought she looked gated, and i was not the only one who saw it. it was wonderful....
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Post by nrly on Jul 2, 2008 16:59:38 GMT -5
Nancy came out, stormy is ok, no out of line in her spine, no adjustment needed.... Which is a relief for me, I hate it when they hurt...
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Post by nrly on Jul 3, 2008 0:51:58 GMT -5
I think Stormy is trying to age me fast cause tonight as Jim was working her, making her back up, she tripped, went down on her butt, then Jim bailed off, then she went over to her side. She got up stood there and Jim felt that she was so embarrassed cause a horsey friend was out there also, she came home wet and dejected looking, and even allowed Jim to rinse her face off as well as her body to help her cool down. Now I still have not been back on her since the fall. I will though. I did discover though I am confusing her with the way i ride. Hubby uses pressure to get her to go left or right, I can't since i have arthritis really bad in my knees, so he has to stop that, so I will not confuse her...
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Post by canadiankigers on Jul 3, 2008 8:49:17 GMT -5
Nola, I am so glad that you and your girl are doing great. I know how I am when one of my babies is hurting. I am with Kiger Fantasy, I put my horses before myself.
As for riding, I sustained a severe injury to both hips years ago and it prevents me from being able to use my legs properly but I have found that I can still use a certain amount of leg pressure if I use my heel more than my upper and lower leg. What I have chosen to do is this.
When I want Kizzy to give to my leg, I place it gently against her side and then using my foot, I gently place my heel against her side and slowly point my toe downward so that my heel raises up slightly and applies a gentle pressure on her side. When she gives to it, I reward her by releasing it. It's a very gentle cue as I do not have the leg pressure I once did, but it does work. Perhaps this might help you with your problem.
Another exercise I use, especially with my beginner students is one that helps them to improve their balance. I generally use one of my very trusted and quiet geldings. I lunge him at a walk, while I have my student hold their arms straight out like an airplane. Then I ask them to touch their left toe using their right hand. I repeat the exercise by having them touch their right toe with their left hand. We also do a number of other exercises but right now that one would be a good start. It will help you to get a feel for your center point of balance which will help to give you a good natural seat.
Kelly
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Post by dazzlingduns on Jul 3, 2008 10:59:30 GMT -5
Green horses and green riders are a dangerous combination. Do yourself and Stormy a favor. Find a good knowledgeable, reputable, PROVEN WITH CREDINTIALS horseman, riding instructor, or trainer for desperately needed help and instruction.
It saddens me to read about your dilemmas with Stormy. She does not have a choice in this matter, so please seek help for her benefit.
Melissa
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Post by nrly on Jul 3, 2008 18:00:30 GMT -5
Kelly,
Yes I do use my heel, but I can not squeeze like most people feel you should. And with hip and leg arthritis it isn't easy. It kills me to know I have to use a mounting block now to get in the saddle, but I am willing to do that, so I can ride. But what really angers me is someone assuming something, and not even knowing me or the whole story. 2 falls in the three years I have had her, 2 falls in the 2 years we have ridden isn't bad, I prefer not to fall ever but that is an unrealistic want.
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Post by dazzlingduns on Jul 3, 2008 19:47:11 GMT -5
Nola,
No, I do not personally know you, and you are NOT an idiot. You ARE a "green" amateur rider and there is NOTHING wrong with that. What I find wrong is that you take offence to my suggestion that you seek help from a professional.
I wouldn't have accomplished what I have with my horses without the many years of lessons, help, assistance, and instruction from professionals in the horse industry. I am still very willing to learn to improve my riding skills and seek assistance from professionals with more experience than myself. You MUST accept constructive criticism to become a better horseman Nola.
Melissa
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