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Post by DianneC on Jul 3, 2009 20:03:46 GMT -5
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Post by barbhorses on Jul 3, 2009 20:17:59 GMT -5
He looks like a classic seal bay to me!
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Jul 3, 2009 22:23:17 GMT -5
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Post by barbhorses on Jul 3, 2009 22:35:37 GMT -5
Well, being that I am having conversations at the moment with Dr. Sponenberg on color, I will send this link to him to see what he thinks.
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Post by barbhorses on Jul 4, 2009 12:43:19 GMT -5
"I suspect he is a seal brown with the cream gene. They likely had him DNA tested, and the results would have likely come back ‘one dose of cream’ and ‘nonblack,’ leading to the conclusion of buckskin. I have seen one or two VERY sooty buckskins that almost come out this color , but they usually have more dappling where the black meets the gold color.
D. Phillip Sponenberg, DVM, PhD
Professor of Pathology and Genetics
Department of Biomedical Sciences
Virginia-Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine
100 Duckpond Drive
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA 24061 USA"
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Post by kimk on Jul 4, 2009 13:46:31 GMT -5
The key word here is SUSPECT. That means he is speculating, and not giving a difinitive answer, which is what he mostly does. I SUSPECT he would not give a difinitive answer without seeing the DNA results and seeing the horse in person.
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Post by barbhorses on Jul 4, 2009 14:54:37 GMT -5
Yes, but it is much better than our speculating when it isn't in our expertise. I would rather trust his speculating given that his is field of expertise than anyone else's guessing (including my own).
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Post by stormyranch on Jul 4, 2009 18:06:29 GMT -5
He sure is a pretty boy! I SUSPECT that if I care weather he was a buckskin or not I would contact the owners to see what his DNA results said, before I would SUSPECT that he is not.
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Post by kimk on Jul 4, 2009 19:05:34 GMT -5
hahaha....Lisa you are too funny!
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Post by lindad on Jul 4, 2009 21:06:26 GMT -5
I just love a person with common sense and knows how to get the job done the easy way! Thank you Lisa!
Linda D
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Post by barbhorses on Jul 5, 2009 0:29:18 GMT -5
Wow... You do realize that I did see that he said "SUSPECT". His comments are far more valuable about what he SUSPECTS that any opinion on this board regarding color.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Jul 5, 2009 10:33:27 GMT -5
Kim, please tone it down. I don't know if you realize that you come across as all-knowing and condescending in the remarks and posts you make....it seems to bring out the worst in folks. Even your questions seemingly come across as having hidden agendas and sarcastic twists to them.
The horse obviously still has the creme and sooty at work - no matter what base color he is. We all appreciate when people post stuff like this, because it is interesting. There are ways to get your opinion across without putting everyone on the defensive.
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Post by barbhorses on Jul 5, 2009 13:57:43 GMT -5
Oh! I didn't realize that Michelle. I was actually very confused why people were posting such mean comments after I posted a quote from Dr. Sponenberg. I was guessing that my amateur guess on this horse's color and then posting Dr. Sponenberg's expert guess that basically backed up my own is what got people upset. You would really have to meet me in person to realize I am not a fire breathing dragon, but a very passionate and sweet person. I do love lots of jokes though.  |
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Post by smuttybuckskin on Jan 29, 2010 17:31:12 GMT -5
Ahhh, that's my horse you're talking about! To clear this up, AQHA's definition of his color is smutty buckskin. When we bought him as an 18mo old, I questioned his color and asked AQHA about it. In the pictures of him in his ad, he is still wet from bathing him. In the head shot you can see water dripping from his mane. He is lighter in person.
Just wanted to give an answer!
Thanks for your time.
Kathy
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Post by DianneC on Jan 29, 2010 22:01:14 GMT -5
You wouldn't know, but we have grullos that are really dark like your gorgeous boy. That was the reason I was so interested in his color. There seems to be a form of sooty or smutty that covers the entire body and darkens the coat except for small areas on the face, flank and under the tail. My own stallion, Chinook is that way. You can see a dorsal, sometimes if he's been in the sun enough to fade him out.
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