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Post by lwood92 on Mar 6, 2008 22:22:06 GMT -5
Dianne, Cici is just on the Natural Glo and Stay Strong. She doesn't get any other pellet. Here are some before and after pics of her. I think you can see in her first pic how much she just doesn't feel good. I never could get a good picture of her. After the food change she had so much more energy and just looks more alert. Before-12/01/07  After-2/7/08  |
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Post by nrly on Mar 6, 2008 22:49:23 GMT -5
wow big difference and that is what i also saw with Riddle since we put him (he still is) on stratagy
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Post by lindaf on Mar 6, 2008 23:58:23 GMT -5
So far, Mattie has adjusted well from her greener California diet to a more restricted Texas diet (We don't have green grass pastures in our part of the state.). I don't feed grain or sweet feeds anyway. I can see how people in parts of the country with richer vegetation might have to be concerned, though.
Linda F
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Post by MustangsInNC on Mar 7, 2008 2:46:47 GMT -5
Does anyone on here use the Legends feeds? I have my herd on Legends Performance, which is 11% protein and 10% fat. It's supposed to be soy-based instead of molasses, so less sugars. Still looks like sweet feed, and my guys gobble it up! They seem to be doing good on it, but I don't get my Kiger until the end of this month. I want to be sure I have him on a good feed!
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Post by angelsdream on Mar 7, 2008 9:39:02 GMT -5
I use Legends pellets, I have for years. Ive never had any problem with it, of course I only feed a handful to each horse. My horse's arent dependant on feed because I don't stall them. They get all the hay and grass they want. Im really interested in the feed that Michelle is talking about though. Id love a more natural feed for them. The only problem is I believe everyone down here uses either Souther States or Nutrena feeds, Id like to know if there are any dealers down in this area for those feeds so I could go check it out. Maverick doesnt have the weight problem I see everyone talking about on here, if anything, he's the total opposite. I cant get him to gain much weight.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Mar 7, 2008 9:42:54 GMT -5
I think all this info is just starting to come to light. It is all about education and learning - not what we see as the "norm". The picts of Lynns' two horses show that. The first picts of both is what we are used to seeing and our eyes may find that appealing. The updated pict of CiCi some may think she is thin - needs more groceries! However, she just needs more muscle! She is pasture fit - has some muscle, but needs more development. When you view a horse from behind, you should not see thier bellies.
When I was in Chicago and had premium hay, fed oats and barley plus vit/mins, my young horses looked great. They were thin (I used to like to see ribs until they were 2, as it should be), fit and healthy. Since moving here to Texas and having a thingyens of a time with hay and feed, they have gotten fat, lazier and not developing the way I like. Consider for instance when you have a fatter foal/young horse, the weight of the belly will pull the spine downwards. This is the way the spine will develop and fuse and the horse will have a "weaker" back.
Also in foals, you will have the feet develop askew. If they are heavy for thier frame, they will have to walk with the feet coming more toward the medial line (center of the horse) for balance. This means not only will they not walk straight, but the feet will wear more on the inside and the outside will flare. Over time this will cause the foot to turn in and fuse that way, so they may appear "somewhat" pigeon toed. When you look at the bottom of the foot the outside sole will be a larger area than the inside half of the sole. The back feet may even turn out some, as they hit with the inside rear quarter to carry the added weight.
The nutritionalist that came here was very surprised at the way the Kigers have reacted to certain feeds. So were the nutrition group with Aussie Logic feeds. So, there must be something to thier metabolism that requires different needs. It makes sense that all horses cannot be treated the same, just as people. Our Kiger crosses to Hipo are totally different than our crosses to the foundation QHs' - they have way different needs.
One of the biggest no-no's is alfalfa...waaaay too rich and unbalanced nutritionally.
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Post by fantasykiger on Mar 8, 2008 14:45:13 GMT -5
I have to agree with the photo above and my vet would agree with your comments Michelle. He says more people are guilty of fat out of shape horses then thin out of shape horses in our county. I was one of those guilty parties, I wanted to plump horses I thought they were happier. I got a rude awakening when my best riding horse developed laminitis on to much grass hay, alfalfa and my loving treats 3 yrs ago. She was not a Mustang so I thought feeding all them goodies would be fine, she sure liked them. I have taken' a whole other look at my feeding program and my exercise program for my horses as well. By the way my mare got better and now thinks she is starving 24/7 ;D but she looks great and is in good shape these days.
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Post by angelsdream on Mar 12, 2008 10:04:21 GMT -5
Michelle, I was wondering about the Finally feed and my quarter horse who is very very fat, luckily he's lost some weight this winter, but he still needs to lose about 100 more lbs. But I dont feed him hardly any feed at all, a handful once a day and thats it. He's fat off grass and hay, which he will eat as long as its in front of him. Do you think this feed would be beneficial to him? Am I understanding it correctly, its more easily digestestable and natural to where they get more nutrients out of it? Ive started working him every week to help get the weight off and keeping him up as much as I can so he can't eat
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Post by angelsdream on Mar 12, 2008 11:10:26 GMT -5
I heard back from Gabrielle about the Finally feed, and no there's no dealer here in GA. She gave me a price on what I could buy it direct from her due to there being no dealer here, and its a great price compared to what retail is, but the only problem would be shipping and handling.
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Post by J on Mar 12, 2008 22:29:58 GMT -5
I feed 1 cup whole oats, 1 cup BOSS and 1 cup alfalfa pellets. For supplements I was using Equerry's choice and am now using Dynamite.
Normally I feed plain local grass hay, but now that I am out.....I am feeding a orchard/alfalfa mix....very low on the alfalfa part, mostly orchard.
In addition they can have dynamite 1 to 1 or 2 to 1. This they were on during the period they were on Equerrys and remain on with my switch. I simply offer them the bucket and they take from which ever they deem necessary. Depending on the time of year, pasture availability and hay type...the will seek one over the other.
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Post by citykid on Mar 14, 2008 15:14:52 GMT -5
Well.... I got my Finally feed today.. Dante would prefer XTN tee hee 'cause of the sweetness I am sure. But even so he did eat 1 little coffe cup full. Gone to take some pictures too.
55 degrees in Chicago today - had the air conditioning on in the car.
Got a "hot date" tonight. Doing an evening clinic to disect my first horse leg. Yep, takin the barf bag. B.
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Post by kimk on Mar 15, 2008 0:35:08 GMT -5
J,
I also feed Dynamite supplements as well as the PGR grain. Most of my horses only get one cup ( a measuring cup ) of the grain. My elderly mare gets more along with the TNT and soaked orchard grass hay pellets which she does great on ( she is 33 ). They all have the 1-1, 2-1, Izmine and NTM salt free choice.The pregnant mares are on Breeder Pac.
Dynapro is a must in my barn too!! What I love about Dynamite is the digestability, and quality, the fact that it is chemical free, and the great balance of chelated minerals that make the nutrients more easily utilized. For hay they all just get local grass.
Kim
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Mar 15, 2008 7:17:22 GMT -5
Glad you switched Dante to Finally!! Are you doing the gut conditioning program?? I think he would benefit from that. Cha-ching.
Today it was 96 here....gonna be a hot one this year I think! We just got alot of rain and everything is turning green green green!
Where are you disecting at? Sounds like fun!
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Post by nrly on Mar 15, 2008 10:11:46 GMT -5
we do feed alfalfa and it is local, but each squeeze is so different if it is from the same farm. So as per our vets recommendation's we give strategy AX, not all are on it yet, we are working nova and Shooter into it. They were on Senior Manna, and look good, but since they also are on Hay vet said when done with the manna start them on the strategy. I feel it is well worth the price, Riddle has been on it since December and is looking so good. What is also nice I can give it to my pregnant mare and she and the baby get everything they need. So we just started her on it. And Stormy is on it and I see a difference in her coat,and she is running and slimming down just looking good.
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Post by nightangel on Mar 15, 2008 11:23:16 GMT -5
Ooooooooooooo! A horse leg?! That sounds like fun! Yesterday at the vet I got to cut a baby lambs eye lid off. It was interesting. It just starting to get in the 60s here, and things are NO WHERE close to turning green yet.  |
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