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Post by fantasykiger on Apr 22, 2010 15:45:38 GMT -5
Donner was a wonderful Kiger Mustang and the model horse for a wonderful Disney movie. That is all, amazing what some good publicity can do for you. I want to know who was the model horse for Rain. Anyway, Donner should of been gelded as I think it is wrong to keep a stallion isolated with no intention of ever breeding him...but that is just my opinion. I do believe Rick did retain breeding rights for a few years after the sale, I am not sure he used them.
In my neck of the woods Cowboy is the only Stallion to have proven himself outside of Kigerfest and the Mustang shows, showing against other breeds in the ABRA back in his prime. His owners still get requests for outside breeding, but have a new passion, mules.
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Post by DianneC on May 1, 2010 10:41:15 GMT -5
OK, I'm back...kind of. Lots going on still. But I did want to address a couple things. I was a bit surprised after the quality of horses that I think we've produced that my saying this was a guy that should stay a stallion got some of the reactions that it did. Any good stallion can make a good gelding, although I actually like them as stallions better as they are braver. I haven't had any trouble riding my stallions and Kevin's Dino is proof that they can be amazing under saddle. But timing is everything and I'd missed a lot of work as my Dad was in and out of the hospital since the end of February. So I just couldn't come up with the money. Lots of people are in similar situations I know. As far as competing at KMA events, that doesn't ring my bell or prove a horse. The same horses show up year after year and I think Sundance was the only one to take Grand Champion more than once. Which just means that different judges look for different things, which we all know. I'm not sure I'd be really impressed by a show record anyway. If I was to be impressed it would be with Dino because of the number of events and record he has. Neither does any kind of dna mean a horse should stay a stallion. There has to be the right combination of ability, mind and breeding. Something unique to offer future generations. To talk about Rio...it would have been nice to have video so you could see how he moved. He was able to get his butt under himself very easily - not with a 250# guy on him in sand when he's out of shape though. But afterward he was showing off for some mares and wow! I love the way his neck comes into his body, the angle of his shoulder, the angle of his forearm, the length and angle of his croup and the width of his loins. He has a deep hip with great angles, sadly MANY Kigers do not. He has Calista's long neck and her beautiful eye with Chinook's substance and presence. He has looked a tad long in the back at times but he measures out fine, and I'd like him a little more uphill. But for a horse just standing around, not even in a pasture I thought he was magnificent. Here he is at three and maybe we can discuss conformation from these pictures if you like.  He's a bit stretched out here  His head would make any girl swoon  Just because "all Kigers have good minds" doesn't mean you can discount it. Rio was the easiest colt I ever had to halter break. Putting on the halter the first time was no big. Once that was done I picked up on the cheek strap and he went away. I went with him and as soon as he stopped I released, thinking it was a good point to quit before he got away. I picked up the cheek strap again and he started to go away and stopped after about an inch. I released and picked up again. He wiggled a little and eventually tried coming to me. I released and picked up again. He came toward me and I gave a little release and picked up. He moved his feet toward me and I released. This took longer to write than to do it. That's the mind I look for in a stallion and something Chinook was really good at passing on. If they don't have it they shouldn't be a stallion no matter how they move or what they can do. That's the stallion that should be gelded. When they can have his movement, presence and brio but are soft in the eye and easy to handle they deserve to stay a stallion and see what they can produce. |
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Post by sbutter on May 2, 2010 2:43:55 GMT -5
Good movement and presence always catch my eye in any horse. I like to see a horse that can really get down and reach under himself while making it look effortless. You don't want the horse to look like he is "trying." Some of the best TBs made it hard for the jockeys to get a good idea of how fast they were going, because they covered so much ground without even showing it.
If they do start working with him more, maybe they can grab a video. It would definitely be interesting to see.
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Post by DianneC on May 2, 2010 16:04:50 GMT -5
Some of the best just seem to float, even over rough ground, their head doesn't move at all and their back very little. Even as foals they can do that. How do they do that?
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Post by angelsdream on May 3, 2010 8:44:57 GMT -5
Any more word on him? Are they going to keep him or sell him? Either way, he will make a great gelding for someone. Hopefully someone will get him and have a great riding horse. He will have the confidence of a stallion but the mellow attitude of a gelding...PERFECT!
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Post by DianneC on May 3, 2010 15:57:46 GMT -5
No, I haven't called them. Hope he healed ok without being able to move much. I do think he will be for sale again.
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Post by stlkigers on May 3, 2010 20:54:02 GMT -5
He's so so gorgeous...I hope someone buys him and gets him out in the public eye! Maybe since Cindy got Bravo, her trainer Terri would be interested in him????HMM??? She'd be a great person to get him out and about and I know she is now a HUGE Kiger fan thanks to Bravo!
Angela
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Post by sbutter on May 4, 2010 15:14:18 GMT -5
Hmm...as far as the "floating" is concerned, I think it involves several factors. One of them is nutrition and temperament. We had a young TB gelding that was pretty quiet and lazy, so we asked a homeopathic guy to find out if anything was wrong with him or if he was just a very quiet horse. He had solved some other horse issues for us and we had great results. Beau was very deficient in B12, so we gave him a B12 shot to see if that would help. He was a completely different horse and he would collect himself and float around the arena when he trotted.
A lot of it you can find comparisons with people. You look at people that are naturally athletic and are very graceful in the way they move. Lol, if they have good "conformation," then they will be more able to do their job with ease and grace. Poor posture and nutrition can take that away.
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