Claybank

[charlieh]

None of the tested Sulphur's to date have tested for creme either.

BTW My mare is Sulphur's Kamilani once owned by Erin Grey and then By Jan Colwell.

[DianneC]

I think its easy to understand how the Kiger claybank got its name. I was out on the Kiger HMA one time and saw a colt that was cream colored with a perfect blanket of PINK over its back, down his sides and across his hips. Looked for all the world like he rolled in red dirt. Mom was a puzzle to me at the time. She was very light with a dark mane and tail, but the bottom of her tail was white and the top black! I was wondering how a pinto got in, but much later realized that she was greying. Kigers typically grey at the bottom of their tail first for some reason. So the foal was dun + grey which is really striking when they are young as they are this light creamy color with a warm or cool cast and dark mane and tail and dark stripes to die for against that light coat. Its only been the last five years or so that they've been identified as grey+dun. Most greys are born dark and then lighten around their eyes first. One old timer said that they called the original Kiger claybanks "pumpkin horses" because they turned orange in the winter. I've yet to see that in any horse.

[gotkiger]

So my girl would be a gray dun not a claybank ... interesting. Though if i keep her in the shade she will still develop that came creamy coat covered in white dapples within a week and her lag bars get darker. She is a marvel of nature i think.

[gotkiger]

Dollie at 12-18 months

Dollie at 12 years

Her Dorsal stripe is gone but her leg bars are still visible as well as her bi colored mane and tail If you look at her body you can see she is still that amazing cream color but covered in white dapples.

[charlieh]

I have always liked that color of a Kiger. I fell in love with Silverado when I saw him in person. I always suspected Grey, but didn't know until I was reading these posts.

[gotkiger]

Her sire is Silverado if your couldn't tell from that second pose. It is almost exactly the same pose as one of the pictures Rick has on his site just different side. I was told that this was a claybank and so that is how i describe her. HOwever when i had her color tested the results blew my mind. I had done research and had read that a claybank was a red dun. Well when her results came back and said she is homozygous black and cant have a red foal that made me wonder. She has the Aguti so she is in fact a bay with dun and gray but the Augti is recessive so her foals might be black or grulla. I am testing her dun to see if she is heterozygous or homozygous. I have to wait for all the hair samples to get back to me and then send them in so it could take a while. But knowing now that they consider this to be more of a gray dun it makes a little more sense with her color test results.

[DianneC]

She's a gorgeous horse! Just wait until Tiffany sees these pictures...she really loves grey. I've forgotten who her dam is.

[Michelle Clarke]

Your mare is beautiful...I can see why you love her so much!

Madonna was registered "light dun", called a "claybank", but turned out to be the dreaded "greybank"...picture overload:

Madonna at three:



At six:



At eight with her dun/grey filly, Reina:



At nine with her grullo/grey colt, Rico:

[Michelle Clarke]

Madonnas' "claybank" filly, Ora...as a foal (sorry, only one I have that I have scanned from regular photos):



Two years old:



Five years old:



Eight years old:

[gotkiger]

I have pictures of Dollie at 3 but I dont have a scanner to get them onto the computer. This is her at 6 with her 2004 Dun colt By Donner, Diego

[fantasykiger]

OH YES..your mare Dollie is gorgeous and yep' she makes me smile big ;D My mare Fantasy is also a registered claybank and a grand daughter of Mestena (Silverado's dam). Fantasy however has never passed on the grey to any of her foals.
I do love grey on dun. Fantasy has gotten' pretty light over the years appears more white in the winter and you see more of the light cream dun color in the summer.

[gotkiger]

That is odd because Dollie is the opposite. She gets really light in the summer and then you see that beautiful creamy color in the winter when the sun isn't out. I can t wait to build my shelter/stall hopefully next year so i get to see that color more often. She has only had one foal and she didnt pass on the gray gene to him. She is pregnant again so we will see if she passes it on to this foal in April.

[fantasykiger]

I think the grey Kigers are the oddest bunch. Some are flea bitten and some are not, I have seem fabulous dapples and other with just a few. Fantasy is 14 yrs old, Her body color has not changed much sense the age of 5yrs. But her points , mane and tail have just got lighter over time.
yearling photo of Fantasy

[gotkiger]

Dollie is becoming more fleebitten the more she is out in the sun but if i put her in the shade or in a stall setting her dapples come rright back which is awesome to see. She is actually 12 i dont know why i was thinking she was 13. But her black points on her ears are ll but completely gone, her dorsal stripe is gone and her leg bars are fading. I wish there was an dun refill station to bring it al back to life.

[fantasykiger]

Fantasy is not flea bitten at all, but I second that dun re-fill. I so would love to have the black back in her mane, tail and leg bars, not to mention her dorsal stripe back.