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Post by DianneC on May 28, 2009 8:53:30 GMT -5
I've only seen one case of the agouti gene hiding. A red dun and grulla had a dun baby and I was thinking someone jumped the fence. Just shows that the rock paper sissor metaphor holds true for horse color. I'm so glad the saddle fits, would love to see you riding in it. Did you decide to use the endurance stirrups or the western? Do you like the bucking rolls? I wasn't sure about the color, but they are nice for steep down hills.
Mojito is going into the pasture with Chinny when Chinny returns this weekend. I may put a mare in with them to protect him in case Chinny is a brat. But he was great with Bravo in with the herd until Bravo was a long yearling. I would love to have Chinny, Blue and Mojito in together but the age difference is too great I think.
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Post by JoanMRK on May 28, 2009 9:14:08 GMT -5
I'm going riding again this morning... Maybe I can get a friend to take photos for me. I'm using the endurance stirrups -- I've liked them and wanted a pair for a long time! They're so comfortable and this way, it'll keep the western ones nice looking in case I get the hankering to show (gasp!) I haven't put on the bucking rolls yet, I just may though once we get cooking through the wilderness. So far, we're practicing on the logging roads -- I do know what they feel like though, as far as holding you in because of my Aussie saddle I normally ride in!
Good luck putting the boys in together! ;D
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Post by lilnagy on May 29, 2009 8:52:52 GMT -5
I too am slowly learning more and more about color genetics; it is hard to absorb all at once. I was surprised to read that Red Dun x Grulla can't produce a dun, as that is how I got Isabel. her sire is Kiger Tiger 1 (red dun), and dam is my mare Conchetta. Here is a baby pic of them together. Isabel is 2 now.  |
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Post by JoanMRK on May 29, 2009 10:06:28 GMT -5
Wow Lil! That's amazing... Learn something new every day.
Hey, I hear we're getting a new "Kiger Junkie" in the world -- I've invited her here so I'll let her or you talk about it! I just wanted to say Congrats. ;D
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Post by Michelle Clarke on May 29, 2009 13:11:32 GMT -5
Yes...we also have a dun by Charro (grullo) and a palamino mare (red based); so the agouti can definately hide on those red guys! The cremello lusitano I bred to is red, but also is dominant for agouti, so he can never throw a smokey black foal (black hides one creme gene) - only palamino, buckskin or the double dilutes.
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Post by fantasykiger on May 29, 2009 15:27:40 GMT -5
I have learned as soon as you say something can't happen, the horses prove you wrong....LOL ;D that goes double for Mustangs!
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Post by canadiankigers on May 29, 2009 17:14:54 GMT -5
Tiffany, I think that is because no one told a Mustang that it couldn't be done. LOL!!!!
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Post by kigerfan on May 30, 2009 9:32:44 GMT -5
Either that or the mustang said, obviously I haven't tried yet.
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Post by fantasykiger on Jun 1, 2009 11:32:25 GMT -5
I was on another board and someone was trying to convince a lady to breed her gray mare to their grulla stallion. Reason being they would get a grulla foal, she declined because she just got the mare ready for riding the trails this season. I told her gray and grulla don't make grulla, my Wickee is an example. It is a bit more complicated then that.
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Post by DianneC on Jun 11, 2009 8:26:56 GMT -5
Hi Lil, I was saying that grulla and red dun can make dun. If the red dun has an agouti (bay) gene you wouldn't know because the bay gene works on black and a red horse has no black.
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