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Post by kigerfan on Dec 30, 2008 15:29:26 GMT -5
Ever heard of them? I ran across them and found them somewhat enchanting, though I'd never own one. They are too 'draft' for me. Beautiful animals though! www.vannercentral.com/ |
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Post by fantasykiger on Dec 30, 2008 17:16:36 GMT -5
I absolutly love them and have been researching them sense they came this way. There is alot of controversy within this breed in the states. In the UK they are not so highly regarded or priced. Should my fortune change and when the draft horse I currently ride has left me for the rainbow bridge, I will be looking into a Vanner. I love a big boned beast of a horse ;D
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Post by sbutter on Dec 30, 2008 19:20:55 GMT -5
I remember seeing one a couple years ago at horse expo and my mom was wondering what it was. I had seen a picture of one once and have a somewhat photographic memory, so I impressed her when I said, "Oh, I think it is a new breed called a Gypsy Vanner." Imagine having a big pasture full of them. I like daydreaming.  |
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Post by angelsdream on Dec 30, 2008 21:14:40 GMT -5
Oh they are very dreamy horses - I went to a show of breed's horse show this year they had 2 gypsy vanner's there. I talked with the lady who owned them and she said she had them shipped over here from over sea's, and yes it was a BIG fortune but she said they were the best horses. Sweet and smart. In fact, one of the 2 she had there was only a 3 year old and had only been ridden a handful of times and she road it thru the arena in the show and no problem. She said they were very docile.....and they are so gorgeous!!
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Post by mustangdara on Dec 30, 2008 23:38:28 GMT -5
I really like looking at these horses too!! they are soo beautiful..and i take a liking to the drafty looking horses with ALL those feathers.
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Post by desperatehorsewife on Dec 31, 2008 12:00:44 GMT -5
I think they're lovely. Gotta wonder when/if the novelty will wear off and the prices will start dropping here shortly? I know some folks who were into high end llamas (their fiber was fine enough to be classified alpaca) that made the switch to Vanners. It could be that looking into how they're marketing these horses would be good for those of you trying to develop interest in the Kigers  |
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Post by JoanMRK on Dec 31, 2008 12:07:28 GMT -5
Tracey, I've often wondered the same thing, when is the novelty going to wear off? They are gorgeous horses, especially in person!
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Post by endurancerider on Jan 1, 2009 16:14:00 GMT -5
Some high end breeders still have nice looking Vanners, however, I'm noticing alot of more cull looking types, more white, pink skin around the eyes, less feathers, poor conformation/ewe necks, etc. It seems that whenever a breed gets "popular" we humans seem to ruin them. Halter arabs, QH w/tiny feet, TB's w/crappy feet, etc. My first inclination when looking at breeds/breeders is to see what they actually do with their horses. If they are just "breeding for color" or for the popular moment, I usually move on. I liked that about the DeBaere's. Sundance did alot of things, they took him places, taught him, showed him, etc. My husband once made an observation about the word "pop", pop culture, popular, pop icon, even popcorn! It usually has to do with things that don't last, that are just there for the moment and then gone, and then on to the next "popular" thing. I also think it's interesting how the Europeans look at the Vanners and how we Americans look at them. While I think they are lovely horses (I personally think most horses are lovely) are they really a breed? Are we just promoting a new kind of mutt because it's pretty? I like that the kigers have a small genetic pool and have an ancestory that can be tracked. But I still see problems in some of the kiger horses I've seen being marketed, the low end "breeders" trying to make a buck off of color and the romanticism of the kiger horse. Of course, that's usually the case with all low end horse "breeders", not just kigers or vanners. JMO - heidi
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Post by desperatehorsewife on Jan 2, 2009 18:22:33 GMT -5
Heidi, I've been seeing and saying the same thing...too many people breeding low quality animals. Happens all the time, and not just with Vanners and Kigers or other horses. Look at what happened to Dalmations when 101 Dals came out.
As for whether or not they're a breed...I think we can safely call them so, just like you can call Kigers a breed at this point. That there are careless breeders going for the POP there is no doubt and a lot of low quality animals are being churned out, but there are enough people who are pouring the time into it to create something worthy. And this is exactly why we need to have a way to compare these horses against one another. We really need to start separating the cream of the crop from the backyard novelty breeders.
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Post by fantasykiger on Jan 2, 2009 19:03:28 GMT -5
I totally agree with your comment desperate horse wife, regarding all breeds of horses. There are both worthy and unworthy breeders found on big fancy ranches and your local back yard farm. That is why research and education into the purchase of any horse is so important. I really try to drill that home with anyone horse shopping. They live longer then dogs, require more care and you want to be sure it's a match you can live with. Dropping it off at the nearest shelter is not an option. |
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