Kiger Types

[Michelle Clarke]

I think a fun project would be to post picts of various Kigers and pick out what type they are and why. How about Kigers that you can see certain influences in - like spanish type, arab type, draft, etc...

An example here of 3 Andalusians. 1 is considered an Arab type.

[kigerfan]

Would it be the center one that is considered Arab type in nature?

[canadiankigers]

I am not knowledgable by any means on Arabs but the little research I did to determine what lines would best suit my needs crossed with Kiger came up with the pure Polish lines. With that in mind, I would have to say #3 as it has some refinement but still possesses the substance of Pure Polish lines.

[JoanMRK]

The first one's body style reminds me of my Sunnie's. I guessed #3 being the more Arab type on first glance but notice that #2 seems a lot "lighter." Interesting to see the differences in Andalusians though!

[DianneC]

If I measure from the point of the hip bone to the stifle on all three the middle horse is the shortest by far. He has a lighter shoulder and a deeper heart girth than the first horse as well.

[fantasykiger]

Did you want photos of Kigers that look like they may fit a certian dicsipline or breed profile, like the QH looking stock horse type, the taller more warmblood looking dressage horse or the lighter more refined smaller endurance Kiger? Not that a certain conformation means they need to follow suit in certian dicsiplines, but just as examples.

[Michelle Clarke]

Yes, Tiffany....I think it would be great to be able to compare and train our eyes at what we are looking at!

[kigerfan]

I love this. The more I see this type of thing, the more I learn.
I've been around a lot of different breeds of horses and have owned three different breeds myself. I know many different breeds by sight and still appreciate the horse husbandry class I took while still in high school so many years ago.
But in seeing the pictures, listening to peoples different opinions and comments and comparing them with my own, I learn so very much.
I can't wait for Michelle to reveal the arab type Andy and hope that she describes the points that make it so.

[desperatehorsewife]

Horse 1







Horse 2







Horse 3

[mustangdara]

I am also real glad to see this subject!...I have been woundering about how you would go about figuring if a horse is typey or not....I had a gal that was really interested in Ellie, she thought she was real typey...then a breeder said she was FAR from a typey kiger!(half kiger that is)
Now i dont even know what type she would fall into or what type the breeder was refuring to?

so this will be fun to learn more about it!
I also think that the photos of the three andalusians make for good comparing because the horses are all in the same position and square.
photo#2 is the arab type?

[fantasykiger]

Here is Fantasy, I was new to Kiger Mustangs when she was born and she was my introduction. A 1/2 Kiger 1/2 BLM Mustang, I was told she is what happens when a cross goes right and you get the desired spanish look. That she is mistook for a Andalusian Stallion at first glance or a Spanish Mustang by others. Mind you her conformation is not perfect, it is just that look about her. I have also been told she would compete well against QHs and other stock breeds as the judges would find favor in her appearance, so maybe she fits that type. I am only going off what others with more experience have mentioned.
granted these are older pics now she has more of a broodmare physic..lol


Just for comparison this is Fantasy's half brother non-Kiger, he is 3 yrs old 15'3 hands, with no spanish characteristics.

My daughters half Kiger Mustang, I would believe fits more into the warmblood type tall 16+hands not very spanish looking, more TB. A big head short back and long legs. She looked like a giant foal until she was 5 yrs old.


Anyway you are welcome to make comments about these horses

[stormyranch]

.Kiger Mare

[Michelle Clarke]

This guy is considered an Arab type (by Andalusian folks). While his head is more refined and maybe a little dishy even, his hip (like Dianne said) is off as far as balance. His tail set is a little higher than they like (although viewed from the back, the Andy folks like the tail to not be lower than the hip bones - while the Lusos are..).

If you look at his barrel, the girth is deep, but the flank tucks up way too much. Ideally, the flank only slightly differs like the other two. His back is actually too short, but I like how it ties in the lumbar and croup. The back being too short is harder to collect and will have a tendancy to be stiff, instead of flexible in movement. An uneducated rider might prefer this, because the back would be locked, therefore have little or no movement - "how smooth!".

The top of his hip could also use a little more roundness. Though his hock sits right under the line of his buttocks, the cannon is not straight. I would think if you straightened those legs out, they would sit behind where they should be. Notice there is no flow from the topline of the neck over the withers and into the back...while the other two tie in nicely.

The front legs also are leaning back, more underneath the front end instead of straight. In my experience, I have seen this in alot of arabs actually, and it is because of the legs sit more forward toward the chest, instead of centered under the shoulder.

The other two Andalusians are considered top examples of the breed. Personally, I don't like either of them. If I had to pick one, I would pick the bottom one...though I am still not crazy about the hip and croup. If you put your hand over the front end of the top one, then over the back end, it looks like two different horses to me!





These are only my opinions....I would be interested in seeing what others like or don't like.

[kigerfan]

Yesss! I was right hehe
I don't know enough about the Andy's to say anything about their conformation attributes or faults. I just looked at the conformation of the three and compared it to what I knew an arab to look like.

[JoanMRK]

What made me guess on the second Andy was because his flank was so high and his rear was so slight. I really don't like high flanks either, they actually look "ugly" to me. I always trust my first thought on over-all balance then pick apart, though my first instinct is usually pretty good. ;D