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Post by dara on Sept 11, 2008 16:24:45 GMT -5
 So i am having trouble keeping my filly behind my hot wire fence she is driving me crazy! Long story shot we have been fighting this fence thing for about a month and bought a new fence charger yesterday. come to find out ours was bad and not working and thats why she has never learned to respect it. i hooked up this morning and she went right under it with out getting shocked... by the way its 3 strands, top is white tape middle is wire then last bottom is white tape again. mom doent seem to mind her baby getting out since she wont go far and comes right back in when she gets thirsty for milk. I went out to let them in this afternoon and she had broke the fence in many places, so it looks like he had got zaped a few times but she was on the out side of the fence and when mom started in she had no problem slipping back under the fence to come along so have any ideas??? I have fiber glass poles to put in between the t poles but cant do that till ground gets soft, and also thinking about putting 1 more wire strand down lower but i am afraid she will go right through that too! HELP! 
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Post by nightangel on Sept 11, 2008 17:46:00 GMT -5
I have the same problem with my five month old mini. She just ducks right under the hot wires!
I'm interested to see what kind of solutions there are to this. I sure as heck don't want to have to lock her up.
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Post by DianneC on Sept 11, 2008 21:57:17 GMT -5
Are all three hot and tight? If not that's the first thing, and keeping any thing from shorting them out. Can you get 2"x2" or similar garden stakes at a lumber yard about 4 feet long and staple the hot strands to it? It acts as a spacer to keep them the right distance apart and they won't separate. The touch the ground but wood is a poor conductor. If anyone hits them hard they will lay down and spring back up. Or maybe make a big corner that has free choice hay in it that only the filly can get to? Like a crib feed but bigger. Mine wants to go through the fence when there isn't much left in the pasture and there is good grass on the other side. Here is a picture of what I mean about the stakes. This was braided but you could do the same with tape and a staple gun.  |
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Post by dara on Sept 11, 2008 22:53:11 GMT -5
great idea dianne! The fiberglass poles i guess would be the same idea as your, as they act as spacers and hold the fence in place. All of the wires are not hot ,only the top and bottom. but trust me i will be getting ALL hot soon and i think i will add another wire at the bottom, wire shocks better than tape(a guy at Coastal told me that) . I have walked the fence line many times to look for any thing that would be shorting it out and never found anything. I have tightened all wires on fence and that dosent stop her at all.
There is still plenty of grass left in field but dry as everything else is.
I really like the idea of a creep feeder though, i think that would be good for her. I have NEVER had a problem like this and its driving me crazy, my horses are very respectful of fences.
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Post by fantasykiger on Sept 12, 2008 13:54:43 GMT -5
I think the creep feeder is a great idea and fixing this problem quickly before your smart filly learns as well, it is just one shock and your out no big deal. It is a bummer your charger was faulty and she never got a good shock that first time she challenged the fence. Once you get it fixed and she gets a good shock, we can hope she will learn quickly  To move away from the fence not thru'. I can tell you I have a friend who has a lovely 5 strand tightly electric taped fence line (all tape hot) that her pony gets out of when ever she desires. There are those horses that will take a shock and be out. My Kiger mare Fantasy was also one that will take a shock and go thru a fence. With mini horses they have so much hair they never feel a shock, unless they touch the tape to their nose or skin. I have watched my mini lean against an electric tape ..I know is HOT. I tell ya' all these years with all my horses I have learned alot about fences and I do understand your frustration. |
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Post by dara on Sept 14, 2008 16:22:57 GMT -5
Well i moved the two lower lines lower and closer together and then turned everyone out and ...boy was she mad she couldent find a good spot to escape! She ran the fence line bucked and tossed her head, she was so mad. it only worked for about three hours then i looked out and she was on the outside.
Same with today i turned out and in about an hour she was out.... It really seems that she dosent mind the shock.
So i am going to still find a way to keep her in!
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Post by DianneC on Sept 14, 2008 17:15:21 GMT -5
You might get a NON solar charger and enough heavy duty extension cord to connect it. You can get a fence tester too for pretty cheap and check what charge your unit is putting out. Its a real challenge finding shorts some time and a fence tester is a huge help.
Also, if you use bare wire make sure it is heavy gauge as the thin ones can cut badly. We had really heavy bare wire where I first boarded and I had some rope burns from it but it never cut anyone. I can tell you that the braided rope, like in the picture, would make your hair stand on end if you touched it. It was plugged in. Rope can still take skin off a leg if they roll into it and get a leg wrapped but thin wire can slice tendons.
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Post by dara on Sept 14, 2008 19:48:52 GMT -5
I just bought a brand new plug in charger last week and have tested many spots on the fence and it all tests are about 4500 volts which should be giving a real good shock. I am afraid to touch it and try! Yes i have worried about her getting cut up but so far she seens to be breaking it insted of getting tangeled(so far) kind of scary to think of tendons slicing....yikes!!
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Post by angelsdream on Sept 14, 2008 19:56:15 GMT -5
Dara it seems you have an escape artist at work  which is very frustrating! Im so sorry. I have no advice for you but wanted to wish you good luck and keep us posted on what works with keeping inmate #10 in!! |
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Post by nrly on Sept 15, 2008 0:30:57 GMT -5
there is so many different types of fencing out there that to a newbie like me I just read and scratch my head... One thing I hope to accomplish is an outer peremeter solid wall around my property, with heavy gates, then an inside fence of some sort to keep them in, but if they did escape I want that solid wall as an out defense protector... Plus to keep unwanted things out to the best of my ability.... Fencing is one of the most important investments I feel I will have to make..
Nola
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Post by fantasykiger on Sept 16, 2008 12:52:47 GMT -5
We finaly settled with double fencing. One fence made up of field fence and inside that two strands of electric tape. Because we like the front of our property to look nice it is that white vinyl fencing with electic fence on the inside of it. No horse can just go thru' the electic tape and be out they would have to go thru two fences and that would take alot more work so they concetrate on gates and clever ways to open them...escape artist are always thinking.
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Post by DianneC on Sept 16, 2008 13:19:57 GMT -5
It also protects your horses in case some drunk comes by at 3 am and takes out the first fence. We've had that a couple times and so another fence set back from the first is the answer.
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Post by nrly on Sept 17, 2008 0:17:16 GMT -5
my property sits on a corner on the south east and south west side..and that is my worry, and also unwanted feeding of my horse's. I read somewhere that if you have two fences it tends to deter someone just wandering in and feeding your animals.also I want to keep my dogs on my property..So no complaints from others...
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Post by dara on Sept 17, 2008 11:09:02 GMT -5
well, permenent fencing is in the plans we are just not to that point yet. 80% of our fencing is permenent and will stay that way, but we have been expanding and just did hot wire so the girls have lots of grass to eat... we actually took over part of the hay field and gave it the the horses and will probably take more. I like the idea of double fencing but we are on 80 acers and would be super costly to fence the whole thing.
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Post by fantasykiger on Sept 17, 2008 13:06:19 GMT -5
I wish I had 80 acres to worry about fencing ..but I have only 5. We are in the proccess of putting another seperated pasture up front, so we will have 3 pastures. 2 smaller grass pastures and one large dry lot.
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So i am having trouble keeping my filly behind my hot wire fence 
To move away from the fence not thru'.
which is very frustrating! Im so sorry. I have no advice for you but wanted to wish you good luck and keep us posted on what works with keeping inmate #10 in!! 