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Post by Michelle Clarke on May 20, 2008 13:52:53 GMT -5
Well, Sycha has been overdue since the 3rd of this month. Sometimes she looked in foal, sometimes not. Her milk has always been thick (testing the same calcium level and ph for 5 weeks now), but not a very big udder. Took her for a palpation today and no foal  ... False pregnancy, we will start teasing her and rebreed her soon. One less Desi foal. I am sad, but glad she is okay and there was no foal that was in trouble. She will be sad too. She has been so excited to see all the other mares foals. Rosita has not made many changes and is overdue 10 days...hoping we don't have the same thing going on there, but maybe so. Thick milk, no real changes in udders or testing levels. If she does not progress, I will take her in next week too. Although we were not able to palpate her last year due to a mass on her pelvis, so maybe a blood test... Picasa on the other hand is VERY pregnant and I am expecting a foal this weekend. |
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Post by fantasykiger on May 20, 2008 14:43:09 GMT -5
I am sorry to hear the news, I am relieved that there was however no danger to Sycha or a foal. There is so many months in waiting and those false pregnancies are so tricky, they are such a bummer |
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Post by juslyn on May 20, 2008 15:54:37 GMT -5
Sorry to hear it! I would be heart broken! Will she be able to go play auntie to the foals? Someone on another board I'm on had the same happen with her mare and found out yesterday. A question for you on these false pregnancies...do the mares get movement in their bellies that looks like a foal moving? That would seem like a tell-tale sign. Since Xana was so skinny when I got her and never got the typical huge belly, the movement is what I determined her pregnancy on.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on May 20, 2008 16:20:03 GMT -5
You know, we swore this weekend we saw something move...wishful thinking I guess. Up until that point we had noticed nothing. She seemed upset all weekend, standing in her stall with her head pressed in the corner and squeezing her belly up...she would come in at night and just sleep, not eat her hay well at all - just kind of push it around. When she comes into heat, I will take her in agian and get an ultrasound and culture to make sure we are okay to rebreed.
The first year I got her she was terribly underweight. I had her for about a month, put some weight on her and took her to JPs' in Houston to be bred. She did not take that year doing live cover, the next two we AI'd and have two foals...maybe she does not do well with live cover, though I don't see why.
We have not seen any movement with Rosita either. We did not even think she was pregnant this year, except about January she started to look like she was. She is acting the same way as Sycha, overly excited to see the other foals and when Zues was born she acted like a protective nanny...funny because she is attached to Sycha in a wierd way, so she just may be mimicking her behavior. I do think she looks alot lower and has gained alot of belly weight, but maybe that can be associated with the falseness too...??
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Post by nrly on May 20, 2008 18:00:57 GMT -5
wow so sorry to hear, is this a common among horse's, once you find out then what, and how do they react when no foal, do they return to normal right away. I am so curious about this. I had never heard of this before, I had heard of it in humans.so forgive me if I am over stepping my bounds, but I would like to know.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on May 20, 2008 20:58:46 GMT -5
I don't want to put human qualities on this, but when we got back from the vet and I put Sycha out, her patterns throughout the day were completely changed. She stayed away from the mares and thier foals and even went to the fence line where the 2 yr. olds are and waited for them to come up for dinner. The last week, she has wanted to come in early and been the first one up - tonight she was the last one and kind of just walked in. Been standing in her stall looking very depressed.
A few weeks ago she was teasing one of the ex-stallions on the fence line, actually squatting and backing up. I have had other mares heavy bred act this way, so I noticed it but did not give it enough attention obviously. I also noticed she had more stallion-like behaviors such as smelling poop and defecating on top of it. She may have a hormonal imbalance that we need to work out too. Too bad it is so late in the year - we may have to wait until next spring if we have issues to deal with. She is really a good producer, so it is a shame to loose that investment this year. I really want a nice filly out of her by Desi for out line-breeding program...
This is the first time I have dealt with this, so I will keep you'all updated on what goes on so maybe it can help someone else down the road.
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Post by DianneC on May 20, 2008 23:58:05 GMT -5
Sorry Michelle, that's disappointing to say the least. Hope your results are better for next year with her. I'm sure impressed with what Desi has produced so far. Has anyone else noticed mares sometimes getting lopsided - where the foal was more on one side than the other at times during the last trimester? A double check for later in the pregnancy is to stand a ways behind the tail and see if her sides are uneven. They won't be that way all the time, but its nice to have reassurance.
I read about some research on mares who were hard to settle. Some had a lot of inflammation with live cover and they did better with AI. Maybe that's it?
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Post by nrly on May 21, 2008 0:15:03 GMT -5
thank you for sharing Michelle.
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