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Post by lilnagy on Oct 19, 2011 9:53:50 GMT -5
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Oct 19, 2011 12:21:00 GMT -5
He isn't 17 hands either unless that rider is nine foot tall...
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Post by duvers on Oct 19, 2011 16:08:06 GMT -5
Wow! A 17 hand, pinto Kiger.  |
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grullagirl
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Post by grullagirl on Oct 19, 2011 17:48:26 GMT -5
Thats definately a new look for a kiger lol. I think a lot of people are associating the wild horses from oregon her management areas as kigers. I recently went on the cloud foundation website to see if they had done a report on the recent adoption and there was a full page article saying the kigers had been rounded up in june/july and were being reduced to only 50. I realized though they were actually talking about the horses from Stinkingwater and Murderers Creek. Has anybody else noticed this?
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Post by spanishsagegrullas on Oct 20, 2011 10:08:34 GMT -5
Grullagirl, on the Kiger and Riddle HMA and Gather:
The Cloud Foundation was not refering to the Stinkingwater and Murderer's Creek gathers. The Kigers were gathered in July. The BLM reduced them to low AML and, in fact, were proposing to return from 8 -11 horses as geldings. I personally called the Burns District Manager regarding that decision, telling him it was unnecessary and in fact a very bad decision considering that the Kigers are preserved as a genetic resource. The BLM subsequently changed that decision, saying it was a misprint in their documents and on the internet.
The Appropriate Management Levels (AML) for Kiger and Riddle Mountain HMAs were established, almost 20 years ago, as a range from 51 to 82 and 33 to 56 wild horses, respectively.
Thus, BLM has reduced the Kiger herd to 51 individuals, and Riddle herd to 33. They released aprox 50-50 mares to stallions. These low numbers and the genetic importance of the herd is the basis of Craig Downer's lawsuit against this round up.
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Post by prizmbluekigers on Oct 20, 2011 16:30:16 GMT -5
I can promise that not all of the horses were gathered from the Kiger HMA, but I cannot give you an exact number. I spent considerable time pouring over our footage and comparing it to the horses gathered (both auctioned and released) and the numbers do not match. I never saw several adult grullas, the almost burgundy horse and several stallions were left behind and at least one mare who ran out at the last minute leaving the foal behind with the herd. Van Gogh the half ear grulla stallion made a run for freedom and succeeded. He treated the helicopter as though it wasn't there once he ran out the side of the trap.
That means as it always has that the numbers are approximate and that they missed 10 horses. That swells the number they say is out there now. I am still not sure that Dianne's "Lonesome Prince" was gathered come to think of it.
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Post by kimk on Oct 20, 2011 22:52:41 GMT -5
there was also a younger colt photographed this summer before the gather, who has a very large blaze. He was not in the pens and I had heard that he had escaped.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Oct 21, 2011 6:50:02 GMT -5
The eleven year old mare I adopted has this years number for gathering - she got missed in 2003 and 2007. Survival of the fittest or wiliest!
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Oct 21, 2011 6:51:37 GMT -5
The people with this horse are peeved at me...they sent me a nasty email saying he IS a Kiger. His sire is Kiger Tiger I and his dam is a horse from "the Oregon herd"; they know he is not registerable but he is "still a Kiger".
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Post by kimk on Oct 21, 2011 12:09:25 GMT -5
He very well could be half Kiger then. I know CCKR had a 16h pinto mare from one of the Oregon HMA's ( can't remember which one ) they bred him to several times, and the offspring were big. This guy could very well be pushing 17h, maybe 16.2 or 16.3. Not unheard of with that particular cross.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Oct 21, 2011 17:39:27 GMT -5
That would be a cool cross!
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Post by kimk on Oct 21, 2011 23:09:24 GMT -5
Yeah, "Spot" was a really nice, very big BLM pinto mare, and she crossed really well with Buddy. This guy is probably a really nice horse, and could be registered half-Kiger.
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Post by DianneC on Oct 22, 2011 9:42:35 GMT -5
The blazed face two year old "hid in the trees and wouldn't come out" is what I heard. His yearling grulla brother wasn't at the corrals either. There were several young stallions released from temporary holding and I think I saw "Lonesome Prince" in those photos as well, but not enough of him to be sure. The younger stallions released would not have been branded. That's unusual but a good call I think by the BLM. Perhaps they have always done that.
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