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Post by DianneC on Oct 11, 2011 21:26:38 GMT -5
I think Kimberlee started calling her horse, and now her lovely foal, California Vaquero Horses when the Sulphur horses had some other types in the HMA. There are some really lovely Sulphur horses, a couple that I would love to have myself. But the California Vaquero Horse is a breed that Kimberlee dreamed up. I would be interested to hear if there are more than her two in the new registry she has developed.
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Post by gotkiger on Oct 11, 2011 23:19:30 GMT -5
Thank you Dianne, I never even thought to ask you because of your boy being so dark. I should have known you would have more information.
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Post by sbutter on Oct 11, 2011 23:34:56 GMT -5
This boy surprised me at the adoption. He was standing sideways when I glanced in and I thought he was a bay. Then I did a double take when I saw the stripes on his legs and the line down his back when he turned his butt towards me. The stripes are easier to see than what the butt shot shows.
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Post by gotkiger on Oct 12, 2011 10:11:33 GMT -5
beautiful!!!! Am i going crazy or are more and more kigers showing up with this color right now?
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Post by stormyranch on Oct 12, 2011 10:22:04 GMT -5
Sarah, Is this 1153? That is The horse that we brought home for our client. Kevin helped them pick him out. I know He is a dun:-) Now don't cry==== but We got Dino for $250 because everyone thought he was a bay.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Oct 12, 2011 13:40:58 GMT -5
Lisa...that's CRAZY! I think more and more folks are getting keen to the fact that these horses are not really bay but dark duns. Many of the bay duns got adopted this year unlike years past. I bought my bay filly and was after one of the little bay colts (that I showed picts of on this thread) but someone else started bidding and I let it go - I have plenty! I hope I get to find out who got him.
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Post by gotkiger on Oct 12, 2011 13:57:51 GMT -5
I hope you do too. They are all so beautiful.
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Post by DianneC on Oct 12, 2011 18:59:49 GMT -5
Yes, there are a lot more of them, and with all the dark stallions on Kiger there will be many more. That's one reason I liked the light stallion I nicknamed Lonesome Prince, he was light colored with lots of frosting on top of being very nicely put together with great movement. This time it seemed to me that the BLM was trying to eliminate white and keep good conformation. They need to reduce the number of dark horses going back and keep good conformation next time in my opinion. People love the light grullas and there won't be many with all the sooty gene out there.
The high bid horse was very muddy and quite agressive. He was an unusual color, which I guess was the attraction. Not what I would have imagined to be high bid.
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Post by kimk on Oct 12, 2011 23:02:41 GMT -5
I have to disagree with you Dianne on both points. Sooty is where most of my grulla come from, and I did not see that 2 yr old stallion as agressive at all. Assertive, maybe. Confident yes. His adopter is already hands on with him, like many others this go round.
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Post by DianneC on Oct 13, 2011 20:08:57 GMT -5
That's OK Kim, everyone gets an opinion, that was just mine.
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Post by kimk on Oct 13, 2011 23:38:05 GMT -5
Hey, I can agree to disagree.... no harm, no foul.
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Post by gotkiger on Oct 14, 2011 10:33:36 GMT -5
all right so i e-mailed those pictures to someone at the ialha who deals with registration questions. She said that even though he is dark the primative markings are there to make him a dun. So with most of you saying dun. I guess I wil be changing his papers from bay to dun. anyone else want to weigh in on that?
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Post by duvers on Oct 14, 2011 13:27:52 GMT -5
I'm not an expert by any means, but my understanding is that the primitive markings *would* for sure make him a zebra (bay) dun; just on the darker side of the scale.
What's interesting to me is that there is no debate about very dark grullos being grullos (black base color with dun factor...just at the darker end of the color range). Nobody tries to call them anything else because it's clear they're not black & must have some dun factor influence. In fact, grullo has a large color range from very light to very dark.
It seems logical that we could have the same parallel with a dark zebra dun. Why wouldn't zebra (bay) duns have a wide range of actual colors? Sure, a golden coat color is the most common & recognized, but I certainly don't think a bay-based horse *must* be golden to be considered to have a dun factor.
My $.02, FWIW. :-)
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Post by gotkiger on Oct 14, 2011 13:53:47 GMT -5
Frodo's sire was a black bay. I honestlt thought he was black. I really think that that has something to do with Frodo's coloring. For all we know he got his sires super dark coat but Dollie threw the dun gene and diluted the almost black coat down to what he has
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Post by stormyranch on Oct 14, 2011 17:10:35 GMT -5
Very well said duvers!!
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