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Post by Michelle Clarke on Aug 26, 2011 16:55:12 GMT -5
I don't know if they are done listing horses yet on the BLM site but so far I've come up with the following:
11 Weanling Boys
16 Yearling Boys
13 Two y/o Boys
3 Three y/o Boys
5 Four y/o Boys
7 Six y/o Boys
5 Seven y/o Boys
1 Eight y/o Boy
2 Nine y/o Boys
2 Ten y/o Boys
3 Eleven y/o Boys
2 Twelve y/o Boys
16 Weanling Girls
7 Yearling Girls
12 Two y/o Girls
9 Three y/o Girls
2 Four y/o Girls
1 Five y/o Girl
1 Seven y/o Girl
1 Nine y/o Girl
2 Ten y/o Girls
1 Eleven y/o Girl
1 Fifteen y/o Girl
I think I know of at least one of the mares that was turned back that is still up and I don't know if the three orphan fillies are up yet.
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Post by nightangel on Aug 26, 2011 17:28:58 GMT -5
You are spending WAY too much time on there!
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Aug 26, 2011 21:52:34 GMT -5
I know...I know...
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Post by DianneC on Aug 26, 2011 22:18:29 GMT -5
I noticed that the mares with weanlings are no longer up. I went to check some dams of the weanlings and they were all off.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Aug 26, 2011 22:21:24 GMT -5
Well that stinks! Did they go back out?
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Post by kigercat on Aug 26, 2011 23:29:44 GMT -5
rats...been making my own catalog (taking all the pics and info from the site as it went up) but because of my surgery haven't been diligent till today to start getting all the new Riddle horses. That's how I noticed the 2 studs and one filly gone. I must have totally missed the pairs pics...I never saw any mare and foal pairs posted.
have only gotten all the pics so far still doing my mare/foal cross ref (when available) .
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Post by kimk on Aug 27, 2011 0:50:48 GMT -5
Slacker..... lol
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Post by DianneC on Aug 28, 2011 21:37:40 GMT -5
Actually, I think weanlings was a mistake on my part, they are the young foals and I think they are too young to be weaned yet.
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Post by kigerca on Aug 31, 2011 0:45:50 GMT -5
Here are some more stats. Please realize the margin of error is very high due to the constant change in actual numbers and the error in color due to baby coats, etc. I think what is important is the percentages. I use my own formula to figure white marking .5 is a very small star, 1 point for every lg star, or white leg. It was easier to figure white this year with lots of pictures. The 2007 only had 1 picture and if the head was turned I could not see stars, that is why there is a 20 horse unknown for 2007. Important to note that both years show 85% Standard 3 Dun Colors, The age under 2 is 76% and 77% respectively. And the score for the amount of white 1 or less is 61% on both gathers. Hope everyone finds this fun and educational.
TOTALS QUANTITY PERCENT QUANTITY PERCENT
2007 2007 2011 2011
Total 121 100% Total 122 100%
Male 50 41% Male 66 54%
Female 71 59% Female 56 46%
COLOR COLOR
Dun 83 69% Dun 85 71%
Grulla 17 14% Grulla 13 11%
Red Dun 2 2% Red Dun 4 3%
Bay 8 7% Bay 7 6%
Black 5 4% Black 2 2%
Brown 4 3% Brown 5 4%
Grey 1 >1% Grey 2 2%
Buckskin? 1 >1% Sorrel 1 >1%
AGE AGE
Under 1 44 36% Under 1 31 25%
1 year 29 24% 1 year 21 16%
2 year 19 16% 2 year 25 20%
3 year 10 8% 3 year 12 10%
4 year 3 3% 4 year 7 6%
5 year 5 4% 5 year 1 1%
6year 5 4% 6year 6 5%
7 year 5 4% 7 year 6 5%
8 year 0 0% 8 year 1 1%
9 year 0 0% 9 year 2 1%
10 year 0 0% 10 year 3 3%
11 year 0 0% 11 year 3 3%
12 year 0 0% 12 year 3 3%
15 year 0 0% 15 year 1 1%
17 year 1 1% 17 year 0 0%
WHITE WHITE
0 47 39% 0 32 26%
0.5 11 9% 0.5 20 16%
1 16 13% 1 23 19%
1.5 2 2% 1.5 8 7%
2 13 11% 2 21 17%
2.5 1 >1% 2.5 2 2%
3 4 3% 3 12 10%
4 4 3% 4 2 >2%
5 2 2% 6 0 0%
grey 1 >1% grey 2 >2%
unknown 20 17%
These facts are only as good as the information, please do not shoot the messenger. I believe this year's age identifier might have tried to be more specific then in 2007. I also think it is important for critics to try and see 2007 horses as well taken care of adults compared to the catalog to really understand how these horse's bodies change when mature.
I am sorry I can not get this spreadsheet to load correctly. the first 2 rows are 2007 and next 2 are 2011. Actual number then what that number equals as a percentage of total horses is how it should read. Email me and I can mail you the excel file if you are interested.
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Post by kigerca on Aug 31, 2011 0:52:55 GMT -5
[tab KIGER ADOPTION 2007
NUMBER SEX COLOR AGE LOC WHITE PRICE
8115 S DUN 5 R 2 0
8116 S GRULLA 2 R 5 500
8117 S GRAY 17 R 10 0
8118 S DUN 2 R 0.5 2300
8120 S BAY 1 R 0 0
8122 S DUN 1 R 2 125
8124 M DUN 1 R 0? 150
8126 M DUN 3 R 0 2100
8127 M DUN 2 R 1 525
8128 M DUN 3 R 4 600
8129 M DUN 3 R 0 1000
8130 M GRULLA 6 R 1 1900
8131 M DUN 6 R 2 850
8132 M DUN 2 R 0 125
8133 M DUN 2 R 0? 1150
8134 M GRULLA 3 R 0 650
8135 M BLACK 1 R 4 125
8137 S GRULLA 1 R 4 125
8138 M GRULLA 0 R 0 3400
8139 S DUN 0 R 0 125
8140 S DUN 0 R 1 225
8141 S DUN 0 R 0 2550
8142 M DUN 0 R 2 125
8143 M DUN 0 R 3 450
8144 S DUN 0 R 0? 150
8145 M GRULLA 0 R 1 2250
8146 M DUN 0 R 1 350
8147 S DUN 0 R 0.5 500
8148 M GRULLA 0 R 0 2600
8149 M GRULLA 0 R 0 2100
8150 M DUN 0 R 0 125
8151 S DUN 0 R 0 0
8152 M DUN 3 R 2 150
8153 M DUN 3 R 0.5 1550
8154 M DUN 1 R 0 450
8156 M DUN 1 R 0? 300
8157 M DUN 1 R 0 350
8158 M DUN 1 R 0.5 1650
8161 S DUN 2 R 0 450
8162 S BAY 2 R 0 500
8164 S GRULLA 1 R 2 375
8166 S BLACK 1 R 0 450
8167 S DUN 0 R 0 125
8168 M DUN 0 R 0 125
8169 M BROWN 0 R 0? 0
8170 PAIR M/M DUN 2/0 K 0 450
8171 PAIR M/M DUN 2/0 K 0 w/8170
8173 S DUN 1 K 0 7800
8174 S Red Dun 1 K 4 125
8176 S DUN 2 K 0 125
8177 S DUN 2 K 0 900
8179 S DUN 3 K 0.5 0
8180 S DUN 7 K 1 0
8183 S DUN 3 K 0 500
8184 M BROWN 3 K 0? 125
8185 M GRULLA 2 K 0 7400
8186 M DUN 2 K 1 125
8187 M GRULLA 3 K 0? 3900
8189 M DUN 4 K 1 0
8191 M DUN 1 K 0? 550
8192 M DUN 7 K 0? 125
8193 M DUN 7 K 1 125
8194 M DUN 2 K 0 1275
8195 M DUN 1 K 0 300
8196 M DUN 1 K 0 1100
8197 M DUN 0 K 0? 800
8198 S DUN 0 K 1.5 300
8199 M DUN 2 K 0 125
8200 M DUN 0 K 0 750
8201 S DUN 0 K 0.5 250
8202 M BAY 0 K 1 125
8203 M DUN 0 K 3 850
8205 S DUN 0 K 2 125
8206 S DUN 0 K 0 400
8207 S DUN 1 K 2 350
8208 S DUN 1 K 0 125
8209 M DUN 0 K 1 700
8210 M BAY 0 K 0 0
8211 S BAY 0 K 2.5 0
8212 S DUN 1 K 0? ?
8216 S DUN 4 K 0? 0
8218 S BLACK 1 K 0 2050
8223 M DUN 2 K 0 550
8227 M GRULLA 1 K 0 3100
8228 M GRULLA 5 K 0 3000
8229 M GRULLA 2 K 2 825
8230 M BAY 1 K 0.5 275
8231 M DUN 1 K 2 500
8232 S DUN 0 K 0.5 125
8233 S DUN 0 K 0.5 275
8234 S DUN 0 K 0 2850
8235 S DUN 0 K 0.5 1100
8236 M DUN 0 K 0 2800
8237 S DUN 0 K 3 350
8238 S DUN 7 K 5 225
8239 S DUN 1 K 3 125
8240 S BLACK 7 K 1 sick
8241 S DUN 6 K 0 0
8242 S DUN 5 K 2 125
8244 S BAY 2 K 0? 0
8245 M DUN 2 K 0? 1200
8247 M BROWN 1 K 2 200
8249 M DUN 4 K 1.5 750
8250 M DUN 5 K 1 400
8252 M DUN 6 K 0? 125
8253 M Buckskin 1 K ? sick
8256 M GRULLA 5 K 0.5 3700
8257 M BLACK 6 K 0 sick
8258 S DUN 1 K 1 0
8259 M DUN 0 K 0 700
8260 M GRULLA 0 K 2 2400
8261 S BAY 0 K 1 0
8263 M DUN 0 K 0 3600
8264 M Red Dun 1 K 0 sick
8265 S BROWN 0 K 1 0
8266 M DUN 0 K 0 2400
8267 M DUN 0 K 0? 785
8172* S DUN 1 K 0 275
pen 8 M GRULLA 0 ? ? 2400
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Here is the full 2007 adoption, sorry again it would not stay in a table. The legend is:ID number/ M(mare) S(stallion)/ color/age/K or R HMA/amount of white/ sale price.
Have fun with this! Email w/questions. Would love to get the stats for the earlier adoption if anyone has them.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Aug 31, 2011 14:44:01 GMT -5
I really need to post picts of one of the mares from last adoption...her catalog picture was HORRID and she is a really nice mare today - nothing like her yearling photo!
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Post by lilnagy on Aug 31, 2011 19:02:02 GMT -5
Oh I love data! Seriously! thanks Sue! ( I am a math teacher :-) I can do a chart for 2003, if someone else doesn't beat me to it. I have my catalog with prices all written in.
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Post by kigerca on Aug 31, 2011 20:20:05 GMT -5
yes Michelle it would be fun to match 2007 adoption pics to the horses 4 years later. and a good test for association inspectors and people learning what to look for and what turns into what.
I don't think any of us really compare the facts enough, we just say what we feel about the changes in the gathers, colors, quality, white, etc.
lilnagy
my email address is horseysue@gmail.com send me note and I will email the excel spreadsheet I use, All ready set up and the codes I use so it will match 07 &11
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Post by lilnagy on Sept 1, 2011 22:58:34 GMT -5
Sue, and everybody; I am about a third done putting the 2003 horses into a format like Sue's but I am leaving now for three days. So it will be at least that long till I can finish, or if someone else wants to do and has the time, I won't be offended! Lil
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Post by lilnagy on Sept 7, 2011 18:34:41 GMT -5
Ok, here is the data I have for the 2003 adoption; I tried to set it up like Sue did for 2007 and 2011, so number, gender, color, hma, white score, and price. It is hard to know if I did the white scores just like Sue would have, so take that with a grain of salt. I did not inlcude those horses that were in the catalog, and then removed, like the ones who were listed as deceased, or returned to herd. I put an asterisk next to the horses that were part of a mare/foal pair. and I put a "p", for passed, on those that didn't get adopted. Some of those "passed" horses may have had adoptors by the end of the day but I didn't get it recorded. And lastly, I separated the Kigers from the Riddle, so you can see things like Kiger had more grey, and the brown and palomino, but Riddle had the chestnuts and sorrel. The totals are at the top, followed by the data for each HMA
165 horses 100%
75 stallions 45 %
90 mares 55%
106 dun 64%
23 grulla/o 14%
6 red dun 3.5 %
Dun, grulla and red dun together make up 82%
10 bay 6%
7 gray 4 %
4 black 2.5%
4 buckskin 2.5%
5 Chestnut, sorrel, brown and palomino 3%
53 weanlings 32%
27 yearlings 16%
18 2 yr 11%
10 3 yr 6%
6 4 yr 3.5%
9 5 yr 5.5%
8 6 yr 5%
9 7 yr 5.5%
9 10 yr 5.5%
4 11 yr 2.5%
4 12 yr 2.5%
2 13 yr 1%
1 14 yr .5%
2 15 yr 1%
1 18 yr .5%
1 26 yr .5%
# gendr age color hma white price
Riddle:
745 s 7 d r 0.5 p
753 m 7 d r 0.5 125
4283 m* 13 d r 0 700
4833 m 0 chst r 1 200
4834 m 0 d r 0.5 1100
4835 s 0 d r 2.5 250
4836 m 0 d r 0 3300
4837 s 0 chst r 1 325
4838 m 0 d r 0.5 700
4839 s 0 d r 0.5 425
4840 m 0 g r 0.5 1025
4841 s 0 d r 0 p
4842 m 0 g r 0 1800
4843 s 0 blk r 0.5 2700
4844 s 0 d r 0 550
4845 s 0 d r 0 725
4846 s 0 d r 0 750
4847 m 0 g r 0 950
4848 m 0 d r 4 725
4849 m 0 g r 0 3100
4850 s 0 d r 0 625
4851 s 0 d r 0 525
4852 m 0 rd dn r 0 600
4854 m 0 d r 1 750
4855 s 0 d r 0.5 800
4856 m 0 d r 0 1550
4857 m 0 d r 0.5 800
4858 m 0 d r 1 800
4859 s 2 by r 0 500
4860 s 2 d r 0 500
4861 s 1 d r 0 800
4862 s 1 d r 0 500
4868 s 6 blk r 0.5 p
4869 s 7 d r 0 p
4870 s 2 d r 0 500
4873 s 1 by r 1 125
4876 s 1 bksn r 0 900
4877 s 1 d r 1 450
4879 s 5 srl r 1 p
4880 s 1 g r 1 1250
4881 s 3 by r 0 p
4882 s 1 d r 0 400
4883 s 1 d r 1 150
4886 s 0 d r 1 300
4885 m 2 d r 0 475
4887 m 0 d r 0 650
4888 s* 0 d r 1 800
4892 m 2 by r 0 200
4893 m* 0 d r 1 1100
4895 m 2 d r 0 400
4898 m 1 rd dn r 0 700
4901 m 3 d r 0.5 125
4902 s* 0 d r 0 600
4904 m 3 d r 0 2300
4905 m* 3 g r 1 425
4906 m 1 rd dn r 3 125
4907 m 4 g r 0.5 1200
4908 m* 5 d r 1 1100
4909 m 1 d r 1 250
4910 m 1 d r 0.5 900
4911 m 4 d r 0 2700
4912 m 5 d r 2 p
4913 m 2 d r 0 650
4914 m* 3 d r 1 600
4915 m 2 d r 0 850
4916 m* 7 d r 0.5 750
4917 m 2 by r 1 350
4918 m* 6 d r 0 425
4919 m 5 d r 0 325
4920 m 6 d r 0.5 750
4922 m 2 g r 0.5 2350
4925 m 3 d r 0.5 800
4926 m 2 d r 1 1250
4929 s* 0 bksn r 0 400
4930 m* 0 d r 0.5 675
4932 m 1 d r 0.5 600
4933 m 3 d r 0 2700
4935 m 2 d r 0 1000
4936 m 1 bksn r 0 1025
4937 m 3 d r 0.5 900
4938 m 1 g r 0 1150
4939 m 1 by r 1 p
4940 m* 0 d r 0 750
5748 m 18 d r 0 p
9048 s 10 d r 1 p
9050 s 12 d r 0 p
9070 s 10 d r 1 p
9072 m 12 g r 2 125
9078 s 10 gry r 0 p
9105 s 13 d r 1 p
9110 m 10 d r 0.5 225
Totals s 36 0 - 33 d 63 91
m 55 1 16 g 10
2 12 rd dn 3
3 6 by 6
4 2 gry 1
5 4 blk 2
6 3 chst 2
7 4 bksn 3
10 4 srl 1
12 2
13 2
18 1
Kiger:
4682 m* 26 d k 0.5 1000
4683 m 6 d k 0 1550
4686 m 3 by k 0.5 200
4692 m 3 d k 0.5 625
4695 s* 0 d k 1 1000
4696 m 1 bksn k 0 2800
4698 m* 0 blk k 0 600
4700 s 0 d k 0 225
4701 m 0 d k 0 1400
4702 s 0 d k 0 1000
4703 m 0 d k 0 800
4704 s 0 d k 0 900
4705 m 0 g k 0 900
4706 s 0 d k 0 2600
4708 s 11 d k 0.5 p
4710 s 7 brn k 1 p
4711 s 12 by k 0 p
4712 s 7 gry k 0 125
4715 s 7 gry k 0 250
4718 s 15 d k 0 p
4719 s 1 by k 0 550
4722 s 7 g k 0.5 125
4723 s 6 gry k 0 p
4724 s 11 d k 0 p
4783 s 0 d k 2 225
4785 m 1 d k 0 875
4786 m 0 d k 2 300
4787 s 0 d k 0 375
4788 m 0 d k 2 450
4789 m 0 g k 0 1200
4790 m 0 g k 0 950
4791 s 0 d k 1 550
4792 m 0 d k 1 475
4793 s 0 g k 1 1000
4794 s 6 by k 0.5 p
4795 s 7 d k 1 p
4796 s 2 rd dn k 2 250
4797 s 2 d k 0 3100
4799 s 2 rd dn k 0.5 200
4800 s 4 rd dn k 0.5 125
4801 s 5 pal k 1 125
4802 s 3 blk k 0 350
4803 s 1 d k 0 1000
4805 m 1 d k 0 750
4807 m 3 g k 0 400
4811 m 5 d k 0 500
4812 m 1 g k 0 1650
4813 m 1 d k 0 875
4814 m 6 gry k 0 125
4815 m 2 d k 1 800
4816 m* 0 d k 0 550
4817 m* 0 d k 1 725
4818 m* 2 d k 0 550
4819 m 1 g k 3 800
4820 m 4 d k 0.5 275
4821 m 3 g k 0 4000
4823 s 15 d k 2 p
4824 s 1 d k 0.5 650
4825 s 6 d k 0 125
4826 s 2 g k 0 1100
4827 s 4 d k 2 745
4828 s 5 d k 1 p
4829 s 4 d k 2.5 p
4830 s 1 d k 2 550
4831 s 1 g k 0.5 4000
9069 m 12 gry k 0 p
9113 m 11 g k 0 1700
9133 m 14 d k 0 250
9145 m 10 d k 0 125
9153 m 11 d k 0.5 550
9167 m* 10 d k 1 725
9169 s 10 g k 0 175
9174 m* 10 d k ? 600
9179 s 10 gry k 0 p
Totals s 39 0 20 74
m 35 1 11 d 43
2 6 g 13
3 4 by 4
4 4 gry 6
5 5 blk 2
6 5 rd dn 3
7 5 bksn 1
10 5 brn 1
11 4 pal 1
12 2
14 1
15 2
26 1
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