Broodmare Care

[barbhorses]

I was reading this on an equine vet website. They have a broodmare care package. The question I have is that it says on the broodmare care package that at the 10th month they should get Encevac T (EEE, WEE, Tetanus) and West Nile vaccine. I thought that you weren't suppose to give any vaccines to the mare except for rhino (unfortunately, they never covered any of this in school)? A live vaccine would risk aborting the baby and even giving the disease that you are trying to prevent. Victoria has received the rhino vaccine (killed) during her fifth month and I will be giving her another during Jan (7th month) and her final rhino vaccine at her 9th month. She is due in April to receive her yearly booster shots for herself, but I don't want to give her any vaccines that could potentially harm her baby.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

drgarfinkel.com/index.php/Services/Broodmare-Wellness-Package.html

[Michelle Clarke]

Well...coming from someone who has not vaccinated for anything in the last fifteen years....nope, no vaccinations. I know that rhino is common but all the other stuff sure would scare me. When I sold Chilli to be used as a broodmare, the gal vaccinated her for everything under the sun and even did a boost of it all in the last 30 days of gestation. Can you belive it??? The last 30 days!!!!

She had two foals; one born at her place and the second I had bought her back righ before she foaled but after the boosters. Both foals were crabby babies; one would have temper tantrums and through himself on the ground, the second would run in the corner of the stall and kick at me. It was the only baby I've had out of 40 something that I was ever kicked by. Chilli had seven foals previous to that and all had the same sweet, curious disposition.

Related to vaccinations? From the research I've done, yes. Anyway, I can sight example after example of that kind of stuff from first hand experience. Our bodyworker says we have the best backs on horses consistantly that she has ever seen (even ones that are not from our breeding program). She says it is because we don't vaccinate. She's had plenty of clients horses crash out of the blue and then finds out they had their annual vaccinations.

So....I would only do what you are comfortable with and surely not overload her.

[kimk]

my vet won't even do the rhino vacs.... seen too many mares abort from the vacs. definitely no WN

[DianneC]

I had all my horses vaccinated with the new West Nile long acting inoculations. Had two mares abort within the month. Vet denies any other mares have had trouble, but I know better. Now I only vaccinate if a horse is shipping.

[barbhorses]

Thank you for the experiences!

My situation is that I am at a boarding facility. I have never been in a position where I had my own land. So, I am a bit nervous as to what those other horses may have been exposed to. Being that she is at a boarding facility, what do you all think?

Well, I certainly wont be vaccinating for West Nile! I am not worried about the rhino causing an abortion as it is a killed virus. I did see a rhino vaccine that was for sale that was actually live and approved for pregnant mares!

I might be able to afford to not have a regular vaccine routine if I finally get some land! If I got that black stud then I would want to send him to this guy down in San Diego (which I am hopefully relocating to San Diego by Feb):
sites.google.com/site/jesuspirisdressage/home

Being that I will be showing him and any mares that I get, I would likely have to have them on a routine vaccine schedule anyways. There are so many different horse shows that they have down here as well as a lot of parades. I wanted to get a Sulphur parade group for the Pasadena Rose Parade, but the horses will have had to have been in at least 4 parades each before they can be eligible to ride in the Rose Parade. So, I will also shoot for the Old Spanish Days Parade in Santa Barbara and find out where there are other Parades that I can ride in.

[DianneC]

Wow, beautiful riding! I can see why you'd want him to train/teach! None of the pictures show any stiffness in the horses, and the reins are so light. That's remarkable. He really gets his knee down too.

[barbhorses]

I feel so fortunate to be able to have access to a trainer like this and he is so close! My mouth dropped when I saw those photos. The lightness and the horse so willing and can you believe how ROUND they are?! Especially Justino! I would love it if he taught my future stud (whoever that may be) to be able to round up and do his job, but riding with just one hand like they did in the old days.

[barbhorses]

Here is what Victoria looked like looked like at the end of November:





She is not much heavier today in regards to fat... just her belly is a lot larger with her growing baby. Her neck is a bit crestier though as well as I think more fat on her hip.

What do think of her weight? She looks like she is ok, but I know that she is much fatter than what she normally looks like. Should she have the same distribution of fat like when she isn't pregnant? Or does she look normal for being pregnant?

I lunged her out today and she just kept running and running and running (part in due to the fact that it is cold).

Thanks for any opinions. I am sure you all know me well enough by now that I can handle your actual opinions.