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Post by barbhorses on Dec 29, 2010 18:08:34 GMT -5
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Post by DianneC on Dec 30, 2010 0:57:52 GMT -5
Its mainly you and another person discussing it.
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Post by barbhorses on Dec 30, 2010 1:16:46 GMT -5
Yes... because it is on FB. Still interesting ideas that could also be discussed here so I thought it worth sharing.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 30, 2010 12:01:50 GMT -5
So, based on the discussion we've had here on conformation and breed influence - is this Marwari horse the original Arabian or Arabian influenced...   Or is this one half arabian and half sorraia?  ;D Sorry, could not resist! |
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Post by fantasykiger on Dec 30, 2010 15:21:24 GMT -5
are those not the coolest ears ;D (sorry I couldn't resist posting  )  I know the post is more about the profile. I actually like straight profile on my Kiger Mustang. |
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Post by barbhorses on Dec 30, 2010 15:36:06 GMT -5
LOL you are bad Michelle!
Black horse has draft influence. Note the small pig eye, long head, severe convex profile, short canon bones, and short pasterns with a longer back.
I would like to do more research on the Marwari. My best guess is that they took the Arabian influence they got and then bred for horses with more curved ears. Arabian ears do tip back just slightly. So it is possible!
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 30, 2010 19:54:07 GMT -5
Glad you took it for the joke it was!!! That convex head seems to start below the eyes, more like a drafty head like you said. They don't seem to have much uniformity in the breed from the very little I have seen of them. Even the ears seem to really vary from a little turned in to really bent and touching. Interesting trait they developed - shows how focused breeding can get something done - whether it is really useful or not is another question!
Would be interesting to know the development.
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Post by barbhorses on Dec 30, 2010 21:28:42 GMT -5
I recall Bev on the HOA board was doing research on the Marwari breed. Maybe she found out how they bred for it?
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Post by migelle61 on Jan 2, 2011 12:34:59 GMT -5
 this is my filly's profile which I consider convexe but not extreme. There is just a smooth curve to it. Iberian horses are also mixed with Portugese horses (Lusitanian) and they have a slightly convexe profile also. |
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Jan 3, 2011 14:29:33 GMT -5
Nice head on your filly! Yes, the true Iberian head style begins being convex by the ears (like your picture), not below the eyes like the black horse above. barbhorses may have some historical info on this...or another opinion! |
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Post by barbhorses on Jan 3, 2011 14:49:37 GMT -5
Iberian profiles are semi convex to straight (but the profile has a feeling or hint of being round. I am not talking straight as in QH straight). The forehead shouldn't have any visible muscle lines which makes the bone of the forehead look more concave. Another very important and classic feature of an Iberian horse are bone arches above the eyes. The muzzle is always smaller in width compared to the width between the eyes. The impression of the overall head from the side should never be a modern wedge shaped head, but straight. Cheek muscles shouldn't be huge like the jowls you see on say a QH, warmblood, TB, etc. The mandible should never be convex (think Araby when you see this), but straight. The chin should be small as well with tight lips.
From this picture, I am fairly please with the look of your horse's head in regards to Iberian type.
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Post by migelle61 on Jan 3, 2011 20:09:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments! She also appears to have a "good" head too! I lucked out ;D
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