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Post by karismakigers on Dec 2, 2009 20:58:42 GMT -5
Kiger Horse Association & Registry is offering FREE registrations (up to 4 horses) for all 2010 paid NEW members.  Not ready to submit those applications yet? No problem! The offer is good until July 1st, 2010; great for those that have to wait for spring shedding! Get more details from www.kigerhorse.org. KHAR prides itself in registering horses in 45 days or less. All members can participate in meetings regardless of where YOU live. ;D Our meetings are held via teleconferencing (simply call in, listen and comment). We are looking at including online web based meetings for 2010 as well. Lots of exciting changes are coming to KHAR in 2010. Check our website after the holidays for updates.  Jillian McIntosh KHAR Secretary |
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Post by DianneC on Dec 3, 2009 1:55:28 GMT -5
Thanks Jillian!
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 3, 2009 6:18:22 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this Jillian!
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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 15, 2009 21:49:36 GMT -5
My foal will be registered in the Canadian Kiger Mustang Registry. It is fully nominated for the P.O.M. and A.O.E. programs, and is also eligible for the breeders incentive program. I noticed there is a reference to another registry in the States. How many registries are there? What do they offer that might differ from the CKMR? Is there an advantage to double registering my Kiger with both the Canadian and US registry?
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Post by karismakigers on Dec 19, 2009 19:55:03 GMT -5
I noticed there is a reference to another registry in the States. How many registries are there? What do they offer that might differ from the CKMR? Is there an advantage to double registering my Kiger with both the Canadian and US registry? Hi! There are several registries for the Kiger. In the US, there are only two non-profit registries that are active. There are two additional registries in the US, but they are not non-profit nor do they have memberships and I don't think they are very active at the moment. KHAR (http://www.kigerhorse.org) is currently working on developing its award program. At the moment, we are not holding horse shows, but do recognized sanctioned horse shows put on by other associations. Most of our members are interested in performance events (comp trails, endurance, working cow horse, etc.) And others are happy being weekend trail riders. We cater to them all. We are developing mileage plans awards, etc. We are also developing an awesome youth program. We have a new duo spearheading that! Exciting news coming in 2010 for the Kiger youth! Dual registrations can have advantages. Additional awards or accolades for your hard work that you have done with your Kiger. It increases the value of the horse in many cases. Just like having a QH dual registered with Foundation and Buckskin registries. Dual registration is really a personal decision. If you are interested in dual registring with any of the US registries, I would contact them and see what their benefits and costs might be. Of course, you'll have to wait until your cute little baby arrives in the spring before any paperwork can be started. ;D Jillian |
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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 20, 2009 10:20:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. Can you give me the names and web addresses of the other registries you mentioned?
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Post by lindad on Dec 20, 2009 11:10:01 GMT -5
Welcome Kigermustang1,
If you scroll down further under the topic Registration you will see a thread titled registries compared that will provide you with that information.
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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 20, 2009 11:28:36 GMT -5
Thank you for the reference. As it appears to me, the registries are at a point in their development where they cannot agree to the necessary elements. Therefore, I think I will just stick with the CKMR and enjoy my foal. They have plenty of programs and have made new advancements to coordinate their programs to correspond with other open classes and all breed shows. Personally I think that if the Kiger is going to be promoted, it needs to be introduced on a positive note. Okay, now I will get off my soap box. Thanks again for answering my question.
Karen
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Post by karismakigers on Dec 20, 2009 20:54:37 GMT -5
Thank you for the reference. As it appears to me, the registries are at a point in their development where they cannot agree to the necessary elements. Therefore, I think I will just stick with the CKMR and enjoy my foal. They have plenty of programs and have made new advancements to coordinate their programs to correspond with other open classes and all breed shows. Personally I think that if the Kiger is going to be promoted, it needs to be introduced on a positive note. Okay, now I will get off my soap box. Thanks again for answering my question. Karen Hi Karen, As I said, selection of registry is a personal choice. Each registry has their own steadfasts and compromises made by the membership of the registry or the owner of the registry. Each registry has those points that they feel they must protect at all costs (like traceability to Kiger/Riddle), breed characteristics, integrity of pedigree (DNA testing) etc. Choose the registry that you are happiest with and fits your ideal of a registry. Each have their pros and cons, just like any other breed registry(-ies).  Jillian McIntosh KHAR Secretary |
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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 21, 2009 10:22:11 GMT -5
I agree. Perhaps having multiple registries is a good thing. As you stated, each one has a unique format and being able to choose the one that suits you best could actually benefit Kiger owners.
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 23, 2009 5:35:42 GMT -5
Actually, the multiple registries are a pitfall for the breed in my opinion. With such a small number of horses, having over a half dozen registries is silly. The Kiger has missed out on being taken as a serious breed on many occasions and not recognized in other counties because of this. Each registry has a different "breed standard" that causes confusion and everyone is breeding for different things.
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Post by DianneC on Dec 23, 2009 9:31:36 GMT -5
But I do think its important to register your horses. There are lots of Kiger "want-a-be's" and people who don't know that its a breed, not just a dun mustang. I've been remiss in registering my youngsters of late and will be getting that done.
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Post by nightrider on Dec 23, 2009 14:05:53 GMT -5
Michelle is correct in the comment that the multiple registries are a pitfall to the Kiger breed.
Spanish type horses were rounded up by the BLM and segregated for their Spanish type qualities dun factor being one of them. The original group of, what is now known as Kiger horses, came from the Beatty Butte HMA. Kiger was the name of the HMA that most of those horses were moved to and the BLM started referring to them as Kiger horses.
A small group of horse people were brought together and in conjunction with the BLM horse experts and sat down and established the Kiger horse breed standards.
This same group of people established the Kiger Mesteno Association to preserve and protect the Kiger's as a breed.
The BLM used a selection process during the roundups to return the best horses reflecting the breed standard to be returned to the range.
With the change of BLM management the selection process went out the window and the low bidder horse wranglers were allowed to just gate cut x number of horses in and x number of horses returned to the range thus somewhat diminishing the breed standard.
Over the years various other Kiger registries have been set up to reflect individuals preferences, personality conflicts or the inability of their horses to meet the breed standards set-forth by the BLM & KMA.
In my opinion there are only two registries that have a true breed standard, the original registry the KMA and the KHAR. Both of these organizations look past the BLM paper work stating that a horse comes from Kiger HMA and actually requires a horse to have true Spanish qualities and true dun factor as the breed was originally established, and DNA to prove parentage and traceability.
The buying public will cull the breeders that sell the Kiger name and not the true Kiger horse.
George
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Post by angelsdream on Dec 23, 2009 15:21:41 GMT -5
I have not registered my 2 yet - I know I need to, but it get's frustrating to determine which registry to choose. They each have there own rules, standards, etc - We have 3 registries here in the U.S. and 1 in Canada.
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Post by DianneC on Dec 23, 2009 23:02:13 GMT -5
That's all true George. But because the KMA members have continued to vote against any means of the buying public easily knowing if they are getting a found bred horse, they also "sell the Kiger name and not the true Kiger horse". I bought a foal in utero when I got started, trusting that because both parents were registered it was a true Kiger. I was very disappointed that it was not. The owner didn't tell me, someone else did. Not the first experience you want a new Kiger owner to have, believe me.
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Not ready to submit those applications yet? No problem! The offer is good until July 1st, 2010; great for those that have to wait for spring shedding! Get more details from www.kigerhorse.org. KHAR prides itself in registering horses in 45 days or less.
