2007 Adoption Prices and Catalog

[Michelle Clarke]

Thought I would pass this along so those going this year can compare prices and horses (there is the link for the catalog that is still up).

Tiffany originally posted this in a thread from last go around:

If you have a copy of the catalog online that came out you can compare the prices to the horses #
link to catalog: www.blm.gov/or/resources/whb/files/Kiger_Catalog_2007.pdf
I got this list from a post on a differant horseboard..I thought folks here would be interested in seeing the list.

Pen 1- 6+yr old studs
8117 - Gray 17yr old: passed over both times
8180 - Dun 7yr old passed over both times
8238 - Dun 7yr old passed over 1st round/ $225 2nd round
8241 - Dun 6yr old passed over both times

Pen 2 - Weanling fillies 4-6mo.
8142 - dun: $125
8150 - dun $125
8168 - dun $1600
8169 - bay(not dun like horse list said) - passed over
8209 - dun $700
8210 - bay passed over
8263 - dun (looked like grulla to us all) $3600

Pen 3 - Weanling colts 4-6mo.
8138 - grulla (this was actually a filly sorted into the colt pen by mistake) $3400
8139 - dun passed over 1st round; $125 second round
8151 - dun with hernia went to Andi's
8198 - dun $300
8201 - dun $250
8205 - grulla(I thought a dun maybe) $125
8232 - dun $125
8233 - dun $275
8235 - dun (we thought grulla) $1100
8265 - seal brown; passed over

Pen 4 - weanling fillies 4-6mo.
8146 - dun $350
8149 - grulla $2100
8197 - dun $800
8202 - bay; passed over 1st; 2nd round $125
8236 - dun $2800
8259 - dun $700

Pen 5 - weanling fillies 4-6mo.
8143 - dun $450
8145 - grulla $2200
8148 - grulla $2600
8200 - dun $750
8203 - dun $850
8267 - dun $785

Pen 6 weanling colts 4-6mo.
8140 - dun; passed over 1st round; 2nd round $225
8141 - dun $2550
8144 - dun $150
8147 - dun $500
8167 - dun $125
8206 - dun $400
8211 - bay; passed over
8234 - dun $2850
8237 - dun $350
8261 - bay; passed over
8266 - dun $2400

Pen 7 Mares 6+years
8130 - grulla $1950
8131 - dun $850
8192 - dun; passed over 1st; second round $125
8193 - dun $125
8252 - dun $125

Pen 8
8260 - grulla weanling $2400

Pen 26 Mares 3yr old
8126 - dun $2100
8128 - dun $600
8129 - dun $1000
8134 - grulla $650
8152 - dun $150
8153 - dun $1550
8184 - brown; passed over 1st; second $125
8187 - grulla $3900

Pen 27 Fillies
8127 - 2yr old dun $525
8154 - 1yr old dun $450
8185 - 2yr old grulla $7400
8199 - 2 yr old dun $125
8229 - 2 yr old grulla $825
8231 - 1yr old dun; passed over 1st round; $500 second round
8247 - brown $200

Pen 28 Fillies
8124 - 1yr old dun $150
8132 - 2yr old dun; passed over 1st; $125 second
8133 - 2yr old dun $1150
8135 - 1yr old black $125
8156 - 1yr old dun $300
8157 - 1yr old dun $350
8191 - 1yr old dun $550
8196 - 1yr old dun $1100

Pen 29 Fillies
8158 - 1yr old dun $1650
8186 - 2yr old dun $125
8194 - 2 yr old dun $1275
8195 - 1yr old dun $300
8223 - 2yr old dun $550
8227 - 1yr old grulla $3100
8230 - 1yr old bay; passed over 1st; second round $275
8245 - 2yr old dun $1200

Pen 30 Stud colts
8118 - 2yr old dun $2300
8161 - 2yr old dun $450
8172 - 1yr old dun; passed over
8174 - 1yr old dun $125
8207 - 1yr old dun $350
8239 - 1yr old dun $125
8244 - 2yr old bay; passed over

Pen 31 Yearling stud colts
8122 - dun $125
8162 - brown; passed over first round; second round $500
8164 - grulla $375
8166 - black $450
8208 - dun $125
8218 - black $2050

Pen 32 Stud colts
8116 - Grulla 2yr old $500
8120 - 1yr old bay $200; but then turned back
8137 - 1yr old grulla; passed 1st round; $125 second
8173 - 1yr old dun $7800
8176 - 2yr old dun $125
8177 - 2yr old dun $900
8258 - $125 but then turned back

Pen 37 Mares 4-5yrs old
8189 - dun; passed over
8228 - grulla $3000
8249 - dun $750
8250 - dun $400
8256 - grulla $3700

Pen 38 Mare/foal pair $450

Pen 39 Studs 3-5yr olds
8115- dun; passed over
8179 - dun; passed over
8183 - dun $500
8216 - dun; passed over
8242 - dun $125

*note I did not make comments they were made by original person that made the list

[pepper]

Sorry to see all the bay or brown horses "passed over"..baseing a breed totally on color is so limiting ..these horses are all related genetically ..that's what makes a breed.Choosing the best examples of related species...don't see this guy as a "cull" in any breed..do you?

[Michelle Clarke]

Hardly a cull...I've always liked him!

[DianneC]

They seemed rather thin to me, someone said they had not taken to alfalfa for a while, don't know if that was true.

[mystickiger]

Pepper, please don't get hung up on the fact your guy is bay. Still a nice representation. But the bottom line is breed standard regardless of registry stipulates dun and grulla as the dominant color. Doesn't mean it's the only color but does mean it's the most sought after color. Personally, I do not like to see grey in wild herds ( sorry, Tiffany) but I know and see Argo frequently. Conformationally, he has tons to offer and obvious to me put his stamp on today's Riddle herd. Doesn't mean that his non grey get won't keep "him " out there. I'm sure the same can be said for some of the bay/brown breeding stock in the gather.

Is it only me, or did anyone else notice the lack in black in this year's gather?

[kimk]

#8138 in pen3 is the KMA raffle horse this year. ALL proceeds go to the Ron Harding Memorial which will be dedicated at the adoption. Tickets for this lovely mare are only $10.

[Michelle Clarke]

Dianne - I am glad to see grass hay for them this year. Alfalfa is a good supplement but is super rich and also a laxative. Some of our guys get belly achy on it if I give them too much. Chilli can't handle hardly at all - of course being the piggy she is, she eats mesquite beans all day then comes in and gets a tummy ache after a flake of alfalfa! This year I am starting some hay cubes for partial diet being as we have NO hay. I am hoping to find some that are straight timothy and not a mix of the alfalfa for most of the guys here. Right now it is mostly for the horses that come in for training or are boarded here in Erics' program. Lots of QH types, so they handle it well anyways.

[pepper]

Perhaps the difference in how these horses are viewed is the choice of the words..breed vs registry.Bay happens to my favorite color,my arab is the same color as Amigo. I could have bought any horse 8 years ago and actually flew to LA to purchase Amigo & then shipped him up to Northern Ca.
I'm not a breeder & only compete in endurance (for 30 years) though Amigo likes dressage better.My concern is that "kigers" have been hindered by the focus on only duns viewed as valuable leaving many outstanding individuals being excluded from the gene pool.A dun colored horse is NOT a BREED.There are many mustangs all over the country that qualify as "kigers" if that is the breed standard and while I love the color and admit that it's what caught my eye originaly ,after researching the horses for a year it was the individual & not the color that I bought.
Since other colors do appear in these herds of closely related animals and they are being controlled & bred we are responsible for producing off-spring that will be automatically "culled" simply because they aren't dun.This does bother me as does many practices in the horse breeding world.This is a recent situation,completely man-made and under human control...just concerned for the horses and trying to keep folks aware of the impact we have on these creatures lives.JMHO

[Michelle Clarke]

I agree again. I love my greys (from my "claybank" wild caught mare) and would still be breeding her if she had not passed. I wanted to really keep a half Luso filly from her (both are grey) and would have but they both turned out more performance type mares instead of breeding stock. My fav riding Kiger, Rev, is grey and I would not give him up for the world. He has wonderful conformation and is a dream to ride. In fact, I have had a few Latin breeders tell me he should have never been gelded but back then, Charro was still young and I had no intentions of having another stallion around - especially up in Chicago.

Looking at the prices, the grullas are pretty consistently bringing more and this year there are a few very nice grulla mares and a couple of duns that are real good lookers.

[fantasykiger]

I love seeing the grey, I get it that I am in the minority and I am OK with that. I have a grey Kiger, so my dreams have come true regarding that I am sure Argos non-greys are out there carrying on his legacy, so few greys produced more greys like Mestena and Michelle's mare consistantly which is why the claybank was prized in the beginning. There is still plenty of shades of dun to please. I am also a fan of the fire red heads, would like to see more red duns this year. In 2007 they were nonexistent.

pepper, Amigo' is so handsome ..those shiny bays to capture you. They like them in the dressage ring too.

[stlkigers]

Pepper, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I think Amigo is gorgeous......that being said everyone likes something different and when I bought my colt at the adoption in 2007 he was passed over by several who said primarily he was too dropped in his pasterns (HA, Ron Harding and Andi Harmon told me not to worry about that) and that he had too much white (star, and 2 white pasterns)....BUT I love the "chrome" of the white....so enjoy your boy and I say that the people who are in this for a using horse, that see confirmation before color will enjoy the benefits of their good eye......

And I suspect that the grullas will bring more as always............

[Michelle Clarke]

Yes, the grullas' will bring more as usual - but there are some good looking older grulla mares. I sure DON'T need another broodmare or a stallion for that fact; however, a young filly would just blend right into my herd...