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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 31, 2009 12:45:39 GMT -5
As some of you may know, I will be expecting my first Kiger foal in late April or Early May. I have been thinking about what to worm her with for this cycle and came across a pelleted form called Strongid C. You are supposed to give it to the mare in her feed everyday for 3 months. Has anyone ever used this?
Karen
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 31, 2009 16:18:58 GMT -5
If you think about it, it is putting a chemical into their bodies every day...not a good idea. You are stressing the body daily. I previously was recommended this product by a vet on my first foal about 20 years ago. He got pnemonia and almost died because of a worm infestation of another kind - one not targeted by strongid. Being around the horse biz for years, I have seen alot of problems with this. Dewormers kill more than worms, they also damage the good bacteria in the gut. We give a probiotic after deworming to replenish the gut supply, so if you are doing a daily dewormer, than you are damaging the gut consistantly. Also remember that 85% of the immune system surrounds the hind gut, so it will affect the immune system also.
Also, the worms that strongid focus on only move on wet grass. If the horse is stalled or penned or it is winter...than no exposure to those worms are happening to being with. We have had lots of horses come through our training facility on this product that are not looking quite right (and on this product); once we take them off, fix the gut and begin a rotation deworming program, they pick right up and look alot better.
I am sure others have what they consider success on the product - this is just my experiences with it.
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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 31, 2009 16:48:34 GMT -5
Michelle:
Thank you for the information! What would you suggest I do for Shasta. She is due for a worming and I am concerned not only for her safety but also for the unborn foal's safety. Any suggestions would be appreciated!!!!
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 31, 2009 20:10:37 GMT -5
You have to know her history, how she was kept (to know what worms she could have been exposed to) and then, up in your area, what is prevelant and when. I would stay away from Quest for a few reasons, but mainly because it crosses the blood/brain barrier and will go into the placenta.
I'll share how I do it and maybe you can get some ideas. I deworm our broodmares differently than the other horses. I make sure the worm load is under control before I breed, then I am careful as the what and when. I don't do any deworming the first 60 days after they are bred, because that is when the fetal organs are being developed; then I go easy. Strongid when it is warm and wet; safeguard when it is dry and ivermectin only in january - well after the mare is bred and when we don't have nightshade anymore (ivermectin chemical reacts with nightshade and is toxic). I also make sure I don't deworm within three weeks of foaling, then don't deworm the mare until the foal is at least a month old...with strongid or safeguard only. Totally, we only deworm four times a year on average, again, depending on the circumstances. I am adding in a month of herbal vermifuges and another month of ditomaceous earth to take out even more chemical deworming.
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Post by kigermustang1 on Dec 31, 2009 20:52:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the break down, it does help me to figure out what is relavent. I spoke with the lady I leased Shasta from and she said that a regular worming program is in place for all her horses. She used Ivermectin last time and Shasta got her last dose about 2 months ago. The biggest issues we have around here are tape worms and round worms. I really dont want to use paste on her so is there anything else you might suggest for a pregnant mare due in about 4 months?
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