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Post by desperatehorsewife on Dec 29, 2008 1:27:40 GMT -5
ROFL, Angela...I remember all that same stuff! And please don't show your gray horse in WP!!! You will not win. Kelly, can you help me understand just what you're needing? Do you need to be able to say "Our show governed by "...." rules? Are there not rules out there for these sorts of classes already? There are organizations in the US that govern open horse shows...have you got something like that up there in Canada? Maneuver Through Obstacles sounds like a trail class? Speed through is...  I've never seen a ranch horse ridden dressage...and I've yet to see someone do dressage one handed. And before someone pipes up and says that dressage means training, again... we're in America and we all know that's not what comes to mind when someone says dressage. So given that, maybe you need to take a look into what open shows are doing, the classes they're offering, and then come up with a set of classes that you feel will put each horse through it's paces? I really think the ranch horse competitions are what you're looking for; they've got pleasure, working cowhorse, trail and more. A horse has to be pretty versatile to get through it all. And maybe that's the word you're looking for, rather than equitation; Versatile. Performance Versatility? |
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Dec 29, 2008 9:27:13 GMT -5
There are many examples of "ranch horses" being ridden in dressage, just check out YouTube for some good examples. Look up "Cowboy dressage".... I ride "dressage" and in a western saddle because it is better for the young horses and gives me enough support to stay out of their way while they develop.
If you look up Doma Vaquera (translated Cowboy Dressage....!!!!) It is one-handed. Most upper level classical dressage is ridden this way. All of our horses are ridden like this (even in the dressage saddle), because the horse is trained off of weight aids and leg.
When "dressage" came into the United States, unfortunately, it was the german style - which turned right into all the competetion type dressage seen today. There is a bigger world out there and things are changing fast here. More and more people are attracted to the more classical styles (French, Spanish...) and even doing well competeing. Things like Working Equitation, Doma Vaquera and Alta Escuela are becoming more and more popular.
It is the American way to take something that is already good and established and then change it and give it a new name! I firmly belive that instead of bringing things down to the mass level, we need to educate the masses and bring everyone up.
Also remember that these type of competitions are coming under not only FEI but USEF....with established rules, TRAINED JUDGES and point systems to be able to compete for nation wide awards, etc. This is the type of thing that will give the Kigers recognition...not creating something just for them and keeping them in their own world.
Let's be proud of our Kigers and get out there and show them agianst everyone else!
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Post by desperatehorsewife on Dec 29, 2008 14:23:29 GMT -5
I guess that all depends on who you're competing against, Michelle. I'm familiar with Cowboy Dressage as Ruben Villasenor does countless clinics in this area.
I guess it all depends on who you're targeting and trying to convert. You need to be able to speak the language before you can win them over.
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Post by fantasykiger on Dec 29, 2008 16:50:03 GMT -5
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Post by canadiankigers on Dec 29, 2008 17:25:22 GMT -5
Great question:
Yes we are offering in essence something very similar to what is described in this web site. We already have the draft people and Ontario mule people aware of what we are doing and I hope to be able to firm that up shortly. Suffice to say, as we are an open show, Mules, draft horses saddle horses and light harness horses of all breeds will have the opportunity to participate on an even playing field.
We have tossed around the idea of having both pro and non pro classes as a few of our corporate sponsors are interested in jumping on board. If all goes well, the end of the season invitational will have between 8,000 and 10,000 dollars available for prize money.
We are also tossing around the idea of offering a sponsorship program for those competitors that want to go pro but can't seem to find the extra income to cover the costs. It is a work in progress and still needs work so IF it does come to fruition I do not expect it to happen until well into 2012.
There will be a number of different prizes ranging from individual ribbons and trophies to money prizes and it will also depend on weather you are entering the season preliminaries or the invitational end of season finals. There will also be a number of catagories. I will be posting more about it in a month or so and more detailed information will be available.
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Post by stlkigers on Dec 30, 2008 10:57:06 GMT -5
Kelly:
I think this can be an awesome thing....I hope we have some serious Kiger contenders willing to travel and enter! That would be an incredible thing...I will stay tuned and see how this morph's into something very solid and exciting!
Great luck, you guys are to be highly commended for trying to get this off the ground!
Angela
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