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Post by sbutter on Nov 14, 2011 18:49:43 GMT -5
On our way back from Kentucky, I had bought an Equus magazine because of one article in particular. It was titled "CONFORMATION INSIGHTS: The spiral hind limb equus". I learned a lot from it and it really seemed to make sense. It talked about the hazards of using "lines" instead of "planes" to study conformation. It also discussed how many judges are misinformed on what good hind leg conformation looks like and would label a lot of good conformation as "cowhocks." I tried to find a diagram that shows it and what they are saying is that a middle option between the bottom "A" the bottom "B" is actually correct conformation.  Unfortunately, the article went home with my parents, so I don't have it on me to explain what they were talking about. I will be home for Thanksgiving, so hopefully I will be able to find it. |
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Post by citykid on Nov 14, 2011 20:49:29 GMT -5
Probably written by Dr. Deb Bennett. She has a free web site with good info - just google her name. I have done allot of classes with her. She is in Calif. You can do full horses disection classes with her - very indept stuff. Her free articles are super.
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Post by stlkigers on Nov 14, 2011 22:24:58 GMT -5
Yes, I've been saving these articles....I really want to take some confirmation shots of all of our mustangs and have my daughter(she's 15) and I sit down and dissect their confirmation....I think it would be an awesome experience...
Angela
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Post by grullagirl on Nov 14, 2011 22:57:29 GMT -5
This article was done by Deb Bennet. She has a monthly section she writes for Equus on conformation studies. I love how she tells it like it is. It also helps that she a mustang fan as well LOL.
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Post by barbhorses on Nov 15, 2011 16:05:08 GMT -5
hmmmm that is interesting that that is suppose to be by Dr. Bennett as it seems to contradict what she said in her conformation books. Here is a copy of hind leg conformation when viewing from the rear from her book series on conformation:  |
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Post by grullagirl on Nov 15, 2011 21:31:57 GMT -5
Hmm that is definately interesting barbhorses. It really does seem to contradict what she says. I think i have the current equus issue so i'll check to make sure if it was written by Deb Bennett.
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Post by DianneC on Nov 16, 2011 0:01:39 GMT -5
The other thing they don't mention is that the first horse in Dr. Bennett's illustrations would not be as likely to have injuries from the hind feet treading on the heels of the front feet.
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Post by sbutter on Nov 16, 2011 0:46:16 GMT -5
Memory on new concepts are not always the best thing to go off of too  . At first glance "A" looks like what the article was describing, I just have a hard time remembering what the hocks look like. I can't tell how much the hocks are really turned on "B." I like barbhorses's diagrams better, because you can actually see the shape of the hock better than the one I posted. |
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Post by grullagirl on Nov 17, 2011 1:16:36 GMT -5
I thought it would be fun to post a couple of pics of horses and maybe have everyone analyze their conformation and what discipline they would use the horse for. Does anybody want to try this?
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Post by barbhorses on Nov 17, 2011 14:19:40 GMT -5
OK, I will bite. Catarina Sforza de España Antigua (California Vaquero Horse aka Spanish type Sulphur horse):    |
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Post by Michelle Clarke on Nov 17, 2011 14:54:15 GMT -5
Some of the picts don't show up and foals can change so much it may be hard to tell. Conformation is affected by many things as they grow...
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Post by barbhorses on Nov 17, 2011 15:22:42 GMT -5
True enough, I was thinking how her wither hasn't developed which makes her look butt high right now... She is a fast little girl though and really picks up her feet and naturally engages her rear. Has been doing flying lead changes ever since she learned how to run. Alright, how about her dam:  |
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Post by gotkiger on Nov 17, 2011 16:14:22 GMT -5
I will bite as well. Ok this horse will not stand straight for the life of me and these are the best pictures I have of her.   and then there is little miss prissy  |
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Post by DianneC on Nov 17, 2011 20:55:31 GMT -5
Victoria has a beautiful neck, I love the way it ties into her chest, not too low. She and Dollie both have great hips, the angle from the hip bone to the point of the butt under her tail to her stifle is fairly closed, Dollie shows this best. I think her neck is nice too, but hard to see as her head isn't on the same plane as her body, its like she is looking around something. You can the nice neck the bay mare has in the picture where she is trotting. I love the proportions of Dollie. If you take your fingers and measure from her chest to a vertical line on her side under her withers, then there to a line from her hip bone down in front of her back leg and then from there to the point of her butt you can see that the distance is almost the same. She really does have a nice hip. Victoria and the bay mare do too, but Dollie has a deeper hip i.e. more engine. She is also deep through the chest with a powerful shoulder with a nice angle from the elbow to the point of the shoulder and a nice angle from there to the withers. Victoria's should angles are nice as well, but not as well muscled. The bay mare's got a nice angle from the point of her shoulder to the withers but her forearm, from the elbow to the point of the shoulder is flatter. Guess that's what I see. It will be interesting to hear what other people think. Its great that they are all at a good weight and look fit.
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Post by gotkiger on Nov 17, 2011 23:39:22 GMT -5
the bay mare is only three and dollie was looking at a group of kids at a birthday party just out of the picture.. she was not too happy but it gave me some amazing shots
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. At first glance "A" looks like what the article was describing, I just have a hard time remembering what the hocks look like. I can't tell how much the hocks are really turned on "B." I like barbhorses's diagrams better, because you can actually see the shape of the hock better than the one I posted. 